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thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 02 May 23 6.45pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Interesting replies and food for thought, i think Forest Hillbilly's views are similar to my own, i like to think of myself as a member of the human race, but i have just seen Roger Waters in Concert. funny enough my views as well and due to see a certain Mr Waters in the O2 next month. Sometimes I set out for Ludlow Sometimes I end up in Chepstow
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Interesting replies and food for thought, i think Forest Hillbilly's views are similar to my own, i like to think of myself as a member of the human race, but i have just seen Roger Waters in Concert.

funny enough my views as well and due to see a certain Mr Waters in the O2 next month.

Sometimes I set out for Ludlow
Sometimes I end up in Chepstow

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 02 May 23 7.18pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan Charles is flanked by secret service, they do their due diligence on all of Charles acquaintances, he would have been briefed on what a monster Saville was so he either knew & couldn't care less or indulged in the same s*** as Saville. I digress I just hope this chapter in British history is short lived. What about another Freemason who was awarded the MBE, also a friend of the aforementioned, Cyril Smith, Did the secret service brief the royal family then, maybe they mentioned it down the lodge. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 02 May 23 7.18pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Charles is flanked by secret service, they do their due diligence on all of Charles acquaintances, he would have been briefed on what a monster Saville was so he either knew & couldn't care less or indulged in the same s*** as Saville.

I digress I just hope this chapter in British history is short lived.

What about another Freemason who was awarded the MBE, also a friend of the aforementioned, Cyril Smith, Did the secret service brief the royal family then, maybe they mentioned it down the lodge.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 02 May 23 7.20pm
Originally posted by thegreatlardino funny enough my views as well and due to see a certain Mr Waters in the O2 next month. I saw him last Saturday night, in Bologna, outstanding performance. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 02 May 23 7.20pm

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

funny enough my views as well and due to see a certain Mr Waters in the O2 next month.

I saw him last Saturday night, in Bologna, outstanding performance.

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Hrolf The Ganger 02 May 23 10.22pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I'll be joining my local community for a street party on Sunday. Which gives everyone a chance to be neighbourly and a little patriotic at the same time. I will doubtless watch some of the ceremony on Saturday if for no other reason than this is something we do very well and it is part of our heritage. I am a monarchist in the sense that we have stumbled over a form of government which protects us from extremism. I cannot though warm to either Charles or Camilla. Them being King and Queen just doesn't feel right and the elevation of Camilla is a bad misjudgement. Don't get me wrong. If she was always his choice then they deserve to be together and happy, but it's too soon for another Queen. When William succeeds is the right time. At least we agree on something.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I'll be joining my local community for a street party on Sunday. Which gives everyone a chance to be neighbourly and a little patriotic at the same time.

I will doubtless watch some of the ceremony on Saturday if for no other reason than this is something we do very well and it is part of our heritage. I am a monarchist in the sense that we have stumbled over a form of government which protects us from extremism.

I cannot though warm to either Charles or Camilla. Them being King and Queen just doesn't feel right and the elevation of Camilla is a bad misjudgement. Don't get me wrong. If she was always his choice then they deserve to be together and happy, but it's too soon for another Queen. When William succeeds is the right time.

At least we agree on something.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 03 May 23 5.31am
Similar to Religious alignment, political alignment, Patriotism seeks to exert control over 'the masses'. Look at Argentina when they invaded the Falklands. An Argentinian leader looking to evoke a patriotic/political response by the invasion. So much so, Ossie and Rickie felt they couldn't continue playing football for Tottingham. The Falklands was the best recruitment Campaign the UK military had in many decades. A lot of fine people have fought and died for The flag. It's difficult to criticise from their perspective. As for athletes competing for their country, certainly for individuals it's all about themselves. I was done supporting England in the World Cup when the players celebrated being knocked out so they could go out on the lash. That's where Patriotism falls on its @r5e, for me. Many years ago, I would have stood to sing the National Anthem. Not any more. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 5.32am) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Similar to Religious alignment, political alignment, Patriotism seeks to exert control over 'the masses'. Look at Argentina when they invaded the Falklands. An Argentinian leader looking to evoke a patriotic/political response by the invasion. So much so, Ossie and Rickie felt they couldn't continue playing football for Tottingham.
The Falklands was the best recruitment Campaign the UK military had in many decades.
A lot of fine people have fought and died for The flag. It's difficult to criticise from their perspective.
As for athletes competing for their country, certainly for individuals it's all about themselves. I was done supporting England in the World Cup when the players celebrated being knocked out so they could go out on the lash. That's where Patriotism falls on its @r5e, for me.
Many years ago, I would have stood to sing the National Anthem. Not any more.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 5.32am)

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 03 May 23 5.41am
,...and some people on here keep mentioning Roger Waters. I'm so very jealous. you've got me extremely upset . Then again, I'm seeing Barbara Dickson next month Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 5.42am) I disengage, I turn the page.
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,...and some people on here keep mentioning Roger Waters. I'm so very jealous. you've got me extremely upset .
Then again, I'm seeing Barbara Dickson next month

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 5.42am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 23 7.56am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I'll be joining my local community for a street party on Sunday. Which gives everyone a chance to be neighbourly and a little patriotic at the same time. I will doubtless watch some of the ceremony on Saturday if for no other reason than this is something we do very well and it is part of our heritage. I am a monarchist in the sense that we have stumbled over a form of government which protects us from extremism. I cannot though warm to either Charles or Camilla. Them being King and Queen just doesn't feel right and the elevation of Camilla is a bad misjudgement. Don't get me wrong. If she was always his choice then they deserve to be together and happy, but it's too soon for another Queen. When William succeeds is the right time. I have similar feelings. I am actually a republican my friend is what I would call hard left but neither of us have a problem organising a tea party for our neighbours who are staunch royalists. I actually don't care about Charles or Camilla but she deserves to be Queen I know many hate her because of Diana but that lady had plenty of flaws, move on I say. One more point
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I'll be joining my local community for a street party on Sunday. Which gives everyone a chance to be neighbourly and a little patriotic at the same time.

I have similar feelings.

I am actually a republican my friend is what I would call hard left but neither of us have a problem organising a tea party for our neighbours who are staunch royalists.

I actually don't care about Charles or Camilla but she deserves to be Queen I know many hate her because of Diana but that lady had plenty of flaws, move on I say.

One more point

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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 03 May 23 8.00am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Similar to Religious alignment, political alignment, Patriotism seeks to exert control over 'the masses'. Look at Argentina when they invaded the Falklands. An Argentinian leader looking to evoke a patriotic/political response by the invasion. So much so, Ossie and Rickie felt they couldn't continue playing football for Tottingham. The Falklands was the best recruitment Campaign the UK military had in many decades. A lot of fine people have fought and died for The flag. It's difficult to criticise from their perspective. As for athletes competing for their country, certainly for individuals it's all about themselves. I was done supporting England in the World Cup when the players celebrated being knocked out so they could go out on the lash. That's where Patriotism falls on its @r5e, for me. Many years ago, I would have stood to sing the National Anthem. Not any more. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 5.32am) It was considered inappropriate for them to continue playing regardless of what they thought. Interestingly they both had different viewpoints. Vilia was thoroughly for the invasion and went back to Argentina to support the Junta. Ossie was more upset at the whole thing, stayed in the UK and became something of a darling of the media.
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Similar to Religious alignment, political alignment, Patriotism seeks to exert control over 'the masses'. Look at Argentina when they invaded the Falklands. An Argentinian leader looking to evoke a patriotic/political response by the invasion. So much so, Ossie and Rickie felt they couldn't continue playing football for Tottingham.
The Falklands was the best recruitment Campaign the UK military had in many decades.
A lot of fine people have fought and died for The flag. It's difficult to criticise from their perspective.
As for athletes competing for their country, certainly for individuals it's all about themselves. I was done supporting England in the World Cup when the players celebrated being knocked out so they could go out on the lash. That's where Patriotism falls on its @r5e, for me.
Many years ago, I would have stood to sing the National Anthem. Not any more.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 5.32am)

It was considered inappropriate for them to continue playing regardless of what they thought.

Interestingly they both had different viewpoints. Vilia was thoroughly for the invasion and went back to Argentina to support the Junta. Ossie was more upset at the whole thing, stayed in the UK and became something of a darling of the media.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 03 May 23 8.30am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad I saw him last Saturday night, in Bologna, outstanding performance. I hope you ate in Donatello Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 03 May 23 8.30am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I saw him last Saturday night, in Bologna, outstanding performance.

I hope you ate in Donatello

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 03 May 23 8.44am
Originally posted by HKOwen I hope you ate in Donatello The Tortellini and Tagliatelle Ragu, Magnifico “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 03 May 23 8.44am

Originally posted by HKOwen

I hope you ate in Donatello

The Tortellini and Tagliatelle Ragu, Magnifico

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 03 May 23 8.58am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Whoops, again, Royal Family, not Jim and family Well, it made me laugh imagining them in the Connaught Rooms ! Edited by NEILLO (03 May 2023 8.59am) Old, Ungifted and White
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Whoops, again, Royal Family, not Jim and family

Well, it made me laugh imagining them in the Connaught Rooms !

Edited by NEILLO (03 May 2023 8.59am)

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HKOwen Hong Kong 03 May 23 9.09am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad The Tortellini and Tagliatelle Ragu, Magnifico Was there a few weeks ago, trio of pasta, the simple yet superb mortadella and 32 month parmesan and a nice bottle of lambrusco. We then headed to Simoni charcuterie to stock up. Watched the Leicester game in the nice cafe place opposite the station, the one with the atrium and souvenir shops.When the Mateta goal went in I was louder than us socially acceptable but they were very nice about it. Bologna for me is so much nicer then Florence, not so busy and packed with American tour groups Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 03 May 23 9.09am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

The Tortellini and Tagliatelle Ragu, Magnifico

Was there a few weeks ago, trio of pasta, the simple yet superb mortadella and 32 month parmesan and a nice bottle of lambrusco.

We then headed to Simoni charcuterie to stock up.

Watched the Leicester game in the nice cafe place opposite the station, the one with the atrium and souvenir shops.When the Mateta goal went in I was louder than us socially acceptable but they were very nice about it.

Bologna for me is so much nicer then Florence, not so busy and packed with American tour groups

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