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Pembroke Flag Bristol 09 Apr 23 10.45am Send a Private Message to Pembroke Add Pembroke as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

But it does have mandatory water breaks

This topic is simple dog whistle nonsense. Get a sense of proportion and move on like the rest of the world. Dubai Eagle has been highly articulate and made the point well, as has Becky


Edited by Mapletree (09 Apr 2023 9.50am)

I dont understand the dog whistle thing .. Your dog whistling?

Mandatory water breaks in the cool UK? The rest of the world or some? Its not all.

Evening kicks off. Sundown is prior to kick-off so these religious players can have water and gels (??) then, or at any time during the game without there being a drinks break for a religious reason.

The problem there is? Physical? Rubbish the players can last for forty five minutes with out the game being stopped for them.

If a player isn't fit enough without rule changes to fit around their own choice then they shouldn't be on the pitch.


Edited by Pembroke (09 Apr 2023 10.46am)

 

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rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 09 Apr 23 10.52am Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Genuine question.
Do they have to eat the moment the sun goes down -or if necessary can they leave it a bit longer to eat. Having fasted all day another half hour wait wouldn’t hurt to much surely . Mind you I can’t normally go more than four hours without eating so I wouldn’t want to wait !

Edited by rob1969 (09 Apr 2023 10.54am)

 

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fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 09 Apr 23 10.54am Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

With the break being around the 26th minute mark, I just couldn’t understand why they couldn’t just take on the food and fluids at half time. If you have been 14 hours or so without food then another 20 minutes wouldn’t make much difference.

Not anti it the break, it just seems something that could wait.

I would be more concerned about a professional athlete starving themselves and what effect it has on their stamina and performance.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Apr 23 11.02am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by rob1969

Genuine question.
Do they have to eat the moment the sun goes down -or if necessary can they leave it a bit longer to eat. Having fasted all day another half hour wait wouldn’t hurt to much surely . Mind you I can’t normally go more than four hours without eating so I wouldn’t want to wait !

Edited by rob1969 (09 Apr 2023 10.54am)

The Sunnah is to hasten to break the fast, which means breaking fast straight after the sun has set.

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 09 Apr 23 11.05am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Intentionally breaking the fast late without good reason during Ramadhan is considered a sin, however its clearly a matter for each individual as to what is considered a good reason -

Personally I think its more to stay true to the ritual itself, so that the observance of Ramadhan by the individual is a more complete & satisfying experience -


Originally posted by rob1969

Genuine question.
Do they have to eat the moment the sun goes down -or if necessary can they leave it a bit longer to eat. Having fasted all day another half hour wait wouldn’t hurt to much surely . Mind you I can’t normally go more than four hours without eating so I wouldn’t want to wait !

Edited by rob1969 (09 Apr 2023 10.54am)

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Apr 23 11.06am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Pembroke

I dont understand the dog whistle thing .. Your dog whistling?

Mandatory water breaks in the cool UK? The rest of the world or some? Its not all.

Evening kicks off. Sundown is prior to kick-off so these religious players can have water and gels (??) then, or at any time during the game without there being a drinks break for a religious reason.

The problem there is? Physical? Rubbish the players can last for forty five minutes with out the game being stopped for them.

If a player isn't fit enough without rule changes to fit around their own choice then they shouldn't be on the pitch.


Edited by Pembroke (09 Apr 2023 10.46am)

Can you put this into a form that others can understand?

Mandatory one minute water breaks were brought in by the Premier League in June 2020.

 

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fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 09 Apr 23 11.08am Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

Thank you Mapletree for the explanation. I thought it could just wait until half time.

Still could I guess, as it would be a reasonable compromise. I can’t imagine them stopping a 10,000 metre race half way through.

Originally posted by Mapletree

The Sunnah is to hasten to break the fast, which means breaking fast straight after the sun has set.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Apr 23 11.39am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

so eating & drinking is forbidden ? what about replenishing one's levels of hydration intraveneously ? say, with a Saline solution in a water bag, on a little hospital tripod ?

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Apr 23 11.47am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

so eating & drinking is forbidden ? what about replenishing one's levels of hydration intraveneously ? say, with a Saline solution in a water bag, on a little hospital tripod ?

They're not Jehovah's Witnesses.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Apr 23 11.58am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They're not Jehovah's Witnesses.

i do recall Roy Keane taking blood out of players. But i have never seen a match with blood being put in.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Apr 23 4.13pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i do recall Roy Keane taking blood out of players. But i have never seen a match with blood being put in.

They were at my door today - must hatch at Easter.

 


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Pembroke Flag Bristol 11 Apr 23 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Pembroke Add Pembroke as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Can you put this into a form that others can understand?

Mandatory one minute water breaks were brought in by the Premier League in June 2020.

Mandatory water breaks are not every game, or every level of football. They are based upon extreme temperatures, not religious choices.

Fasting players could eat/drink before, or at half time, or go to the side of the pitch instead of stopping the game for a choice they made.

The physiological aspect here? If they cant run for forty five minutes without these breaks , they are unfit to play, they have chosen to make themselves unfit to play. A fit human body stores enough carbs, glycogen to pay football for forty five minutes easily.

So that leaves dehydration in forty five minutes of football un the UK cool climate necessitating a break of several minutes because they are dehydrated? Its a nonsense.

 

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