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Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Feb 23 9.40pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Sorry, but that's rubbish. I was at the FA Youth Cup Semi-Final at Plough Lane in 1996, when we were beaten by a West Ham team that fielded teenagers Rio Ferdinand and Frank Lampard. There's nothing remotely new about top class youth football at the Palace.

1992 against Wimbledon at Plough Lane, followed by getting stuffed by Man Utd in the final.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Feb 23 9.45pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Sorry, but that's rubbish. I was at the FA Youth Cup Semi-Final at Plough Lane in 1996, when we were beaten by a West Ham team that fielded teenagers Rio Ferdinand and Frank Lampard. There's nothing remotely new about top class youth football at the Palace.

2 FA Youth Cup wins in the 70s suggests Steeley is mistaken. I remember being at the Everton game at SP

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Feb 23 10.27pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

2 FA Youth Cup wins in the 70s suggests Steeley is mistaken. I remember being at the Everton game at SP


Provided a good number of the 1st team members of the 'Team of the Eighties"

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 01 Feb 23 10.32pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Provided a good number of the 1st team members of the 'Team of the Eighties"

Doris, Kenny, Swindly, Murphy, Nicholas, Hilaire, who am I forgetting? They all came from the youth team. We won the Youth Cup two years in a row back in the early seventies, as I recall. Over the years, our youth set-up has always been our primary source of talent. Clinton O'Morrison was in the youth side I mentioned earlier...Wilf, Richard Shaw, Southgate, far too many over the years to mention. Of our true greats, only Trevor Aylott and Tommy Langley didn't come through the youth side :-)

 


Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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LeftWing11 Flag Lee 01 Feb 23 10.50pm Send a Private Message to LeftWing11 Add LeftWing11 as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Doris, Kenny, Swindly, Murphy, Nicholas, Hilaire, who am I forgetting? They all came from the youth team. We won the Youth Cup two years in a row back in the early seventies, as I recall. Over the years, our youth set-up has always been our primary source of talent. Clinton O'Morrison was in the youth side I mentioned earlier...Wilf, Richard Shaw, Southgate, far too many over the years to mention. Of our true greats, only Trevor Aylott and Tommy Langley didn't come through the youth side :-)

Of the team that beat Burnley in 1979 only the goalie, John Burridge didn't come through our youth system. All outfield players plus substitute did.

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 01 Feb 23 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Doris, Kenny, Swindly, Murphy, Nicholas, Hilaire, who am I forgetting? They all came from the youth team. We won the Youth Cup two years in a row back in the early seventies, as I recall. Over the years, our youth set-up has always been our primary source of talent. Clinton O'Morrison was in the youth side I mentioned earlier...Wilf, Richard Shaw, Southgate, far too many over the years to mention. Of our true greats, only Trevor Aylott and Tommy Langley didn't come through the youth side :-)

Simon Osborne, Jolly Rodger, Ricky Newman, Dean Gordon, George Ndah, Salad Boy…

Edited by Phil’s Barber (01 Feb 2023 11.12pm)

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 02 Feb 23 6.39am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I think Steeleys reference was that with Palace TV we can see pretty much all of these U18 - U21 games for a very reasonable cost - which is a relatively new offering -

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Sorry, but that's rubbish. I was at the FA Youth Cup Semi-Final at Plough Lane in 1996, when we were beaten by a West Ham team that fielded teenagers Rio Ferdinand and Frank Lampard. There's nothing remotely new about top class youth football at the Palace.

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 02 Feb 23 6.45am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Also - just a mention, going back couple of years we had a guy in charge of the U23 ( as it was then) who complained rather vocally that the lads under his charge would be better served going out on loan than playing in an U23 side where very few would make the first team - he lost his job soon afterwards but with todays strategy where we are pushing more lads out into loan clubs it would appear that he had a point -

Obviously not everyone is going to agree with everything said & often timing & the audience available at the time has a lot to do with things / the outcome, I don't know if he lost his job just because of what he said / where he said it but the timing of his leaving certainly indicated that it played a part.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 02 Feb 23 7.55am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Also - just a mention, going back couple of years we had a guy in charge of the U23 ( as it was then) who complained rather vocally that the lads under his charge would be better served going out on loan than playing in an U23 side where very few would make the first team - he lost his job soon afterwards but with todays strategy where we are pushing more lads out into loan clubs it would appear that he had a point -

Obviously not everyone is going to agree with everything said & often timing & the audience available at the time has a lot to do with things / the outcome, I don't know if he lost his job just because of what he said / where he said it but the timing of his leaving certainly indicated that it played a part.

I can’t recall this, however now with the category A academy, the Youth games are probably more competitive, just an opinion

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 02 Feb 23 8.37am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Obviously not everyone is going to agree with everything said & often timing & the audience available at the time has a lot to do with things / the outcome, I don't know if he lost his job just because of what he said / where he said it but the timing of his leaving certainly indicated that it played a part.

You raise an interesting point. Parish is, by trade, a brand marketer and brand marketing very much depends on everyone being on-message, even when the message itself is crap. There's some evidence that he runs Palace the same way; whether you're right or wrong in your opinion, you're not allowed to go off-brand. This may go some way to explaining Derry's departure as well.

 


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Dubai Eagle Flag 02 Feb 23 9.51am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Just had a second to look back - it was Richard Shaw that complained & then left shortly afterwards.

Originally posted by Spiderman

I can’t recall this, however now with the category A academy, the Youth games are probably more competitive, just an opinion

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 23 5.42pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Announcement finally made re this young lad
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I suspect the Scottish lad (if signed) will be announced tomorrow.

Edited by doombear (02 Feb 2023 5.43pm)

 

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