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nead1 13 Jan 23 9.41pm | |
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I agree that letting Kouyate go was a mistake; however, if I recall correctly, it was tied in with Palace deciding that any players over 30 would only be offered one year deals - presumably tied in with greater possibility of injuries, becoming less effective as a player etc. Indeed they followed this policy with Clyne, Tomkins and a few others if I recall. Clearly the situation with Kouyate questions the wisdom of a blanket approach and they certainly won't be going down the same route vis a vis Wilf if they have any hope of keeping him. However, how will they handle Ward, Luka and others whose contracts are up at the end of the season unless they agree a policy and stick to it in the interests of fairness? Its a tough call as are so many judgements in the world of professional sport.
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Dubai Eagle 14 Jan 23 7.02am | |
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Oh well if thats a quote from the horses mouth, then "reality bites" its times like this when we are forced to realise where we are in the pecking order - so for Conor, maybe its Newcastle ? Originally posted by sydtheeagle
Thanks. For me, this is the sort of post (and inside information) that makes these forums worth reading. Obviously, we have to take you and the above on trust but it sounds credible enough to me.
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Teddy Eagle 14 Jan 23 7.22am | |
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jan 23 8.22am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
He has made 18 appearances for Brad C on loan, scoring 3 goals, but has a shin injury and hasn't featured in their last 3 games.
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sydtheeagle England 14 Jan 23 10.03am | |
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Originally posted by nead1
...it was tied in with Palace deciding that any players over 30 would only be offered one year deals ... I think that is correct, and it's one of the most stupid policies in all of sports (not just at Palace; plenty of clubs in a variety of sports have similar policies). Dogged adherence to any random standard makes no sense at the best of times; besides 30 is no longer old in these days of advanced sports science and better player conditioning than ever before. Every individual is different and their contract should be treated accordingly. Would you judge Darren (sicknote) Anderton at 30 the same way you'd judge Damian Delaney, whose battery never stopped? Would Leicester jettison Jamie Vardy because he's gone over the threshold, never mind that he still scores goals even as his pace slows? The bottom line is we f***ed up badly letting Kouyate go, the more so because we didn't properly renew our midfield. As a result, we've now got to dig ourselves out of a hole in the January window, a time when good deals are hard to find. Edited by sydtheeagle (14 Jan 2023 10.04am)
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joe_cpfc Basingstoke 14 Jan 23 10.23am | |
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I really don't understand how anyone can think letting Kouyate go was a mistake. He was going downhill rapidly and he was really just a half decent squad player. I don't think he's played a full 90 mins for Forest and he's been injured for ages. It was completely the right decision not to offer him 2 years and if he didn't want the 1 year then see ya later.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Jan 23 10.51am | |
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Originally posted by joe_cpfc
I really don't understand how anyone can think letting Kouyate go was a mistake. He was going downhill rapidly and he was really just a half decent squad player. I don't think he's played a full 90 mins for Forest and he's been injured for ages. It was completely the right decision not to offer him 2 years and if he didn't want the 1 year then see ya later. Ah! A very sensible post IMHO. I think, if fans are honest, deep down the complaint of letting Kouyate go is more a complaint of not replacing him. I think many of us have considered anchoring the midfield a top priority for some time now however is just hasn’t happened. Again with Gallagher and no replacement of that contribution to the team too. I still feel like screaming ‘sort the midfield’ whilst standing inebriated, looming over the car park outside the glazier’s. Might still happen but I’m doubtful this month. I think Hughes can do a job and what have you but is probably more for the squad than starting XI. Even if that was/is the case still only 2 of a 3 man midfield. PV just looks as though he doesn’t quite know what to do with it atm or who to put where. That’s not good when the manager doesn’t even know what his three man midfield should be.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Midlands Eagle 14 Jan 23 2.13pm | |
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Originally posted by joe_cpfc
I really don't understand how anyone can think letting Kouyate go was a mistake. He was going downhill rapidly and he was really just a half decent squad player. I don't think he's played a full 90 mins for Forest and he's been injured for ages. He was playing regularly for Forest but it was when he disappeared to the World Cup that he got injured and still hasn't recovered. Doucouré wasn't bought to replace Kouyate as his natural position is further forward and ideally would be playing with a defensive partner which is hopefully who the management are looking to bring in now
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joe_cpfc Basingstoke 14 Jan 23 2.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
He was playing regularly for Forest but it was when he disappeared to the World Cup that he got injured and still hasn't recovered. Doucouré wasn't bought to replace Kouyate as his natural position is further forward and ideally would be playing with a defensive partner which is hopefully who the management are looking to bring in now I wouldn't say he's any better than an average squad player. Doucore is naturally a dm the same as Kouyate so that's why I think Doucore is more of a replacement for him. Whoever has replaced who I think we all know that we're massively lacking in midfield and the manager hasn't got a clue how to deal with it.
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palace chick South Croydon 14 Jan 23 3.07pm | |
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Originally posted by joe_cpfc
I wouldn't say he's any better than an average squad player. Doucore is naturally a dm the same as Kouyate so that's why I think Doucore is more of a replacement for him. Whoever has replaced who I think we all know that we're massively lacking in midfield and the manager hasn't got a clue how to deal with it. I don’t disagree with you, but PV won’t play this way. Whoever he puts in the way he sets the midfield up it still is unbalanced and unsupportive for the defence and forwards? When he plays what seems like an attacking midfield (eg Eze, Olise) we hardly have any attempts on goal. I don’t think he knows how to sort it. Mind you, last time I said he was clueless was before the Bournemouth match so perhaps we will get that performance tomorrow :-)
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PatrickA London 14 Jan 23 5.44pm | |
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I think I have a possible solution to the midfield conundrum.
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Palacesince64 Edinburgh 14 Jan 23 7.10pm | |
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He’s an irritating little so and so but I wish he was our irritating little so and so! If he was available he’d be a great signing with the obvious bonus that Southampton would be a certainty for one of the relegation slots without him. I think I have a possible solution to the midfield conundrum.
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