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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 08 Jan 23 2.36pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

You think eze will win the ballon d'or in 3 years, your judgement on how good our players are is terrible. We've got about 5 regular players who wouldn't get into any other team in the prem, viera needs backing with funds and a chance to build his own team

Name those players if you would.

PV has been backed if he gets more money what would be next excuse someone else purchased those players they are not his.

We are not a top team a manager is expected to use players and get most out of them and add in a few for the style they want PV has had those players.

 


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Croydon-Trucker Flag 08 Jan 23 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Tompkins

Reidaweld

Joel Ward , a great servant but the legs have gone

Awew

Luka

Mateta

 

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rikz Flag Croydon 08 Jan 23 9.59pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort

Name those players if you would.

PV has been backed if he gets more money what would be next excuse someone else purchased those players they are not his.

We are not a top team a manager is expected to use players and get most out of them and add in a few for the style they want PV has had those players.

Mateta, ayew, schlupp, ward, guaita. Clyne and Mitchell are borderline, let's be honest Mitchell would only generate interest because of his age and nationality, lb is a position we could quite easily improve. Then we have numerous squad players we would struggle to give away.

A manager needs 3 seasons, unless they're doing a drastically terrible job which viera isn't then you give them the chance to build their own squad.

 

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rikz Flag Croydon 08 Jan 23 10.04pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort

Name those players if you would.

PV has been backed if he gets more money what would be next excuse someone else purchased those players they are not his.

We are not a top team a manager is expected to use players and get most out of them and add in a few for the style they want PV has had those players.

Exactly and we are 12th with a game in hand of 5 teams in front of us and only 3 points behind Chelsea. Where do you think we should be ? How many points do you think we should be on ?

 

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Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 08 Jan 23 10.18pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Exactly and we are 12th with a game in hand of 5 teams in front of us and only 3 points behind Chelsea. Where do you think we should be ? How many points do you think we should be on ?

We should be in the fourth round of the cup with a home tie against Blackpool as that’s what Southampton have got.

 

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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 09 Jan 23 1.28am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Qwijibo

I'm asking for some leadership in midfield. Not Roy Keane as manager.

Would Shaun Derry have put up with that s***? Or Jedinak? In days gone past, players with a fraction of the ability of those currently in the side would have done something to increase the collective heart beat, even if it was just Clint Hill booting an opponent. I just feel like there's a lot of shoulder-shrugging and very little examples of anyone taking ownership of the performance.

I agree, there is no leader... milo was way too soft.. and the nonsense of him coming on as a sub and getting the arm band.. what soft nonsense...

the game well be changing, but the desire, spirit and instinct needs to be there...Are we seeing player power where managers are unable to say what they truly feel?

 


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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 09 Jan 23 1.31am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Exactly and we are 12th with a game in hand of 5 teams in front of us and only 3 points behind Chelsea. Where do you think we should be ? How many points do you think we should be on ?

So performances don't matter to you? It's dropped dramatically of late and better performances often yield better results.. Fulham losing 3 nil? Weakened spurs side thumping us 4-0. Today?
We can handle losses. We can't accept heads gone.

 


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CT Charlie Flag 09 Jan 23 6.20am Send a Private Message to CT Charlie Add CT Charlie as a friend

Originally posted by Davepalace707

We should be in the fourth round of the cup with a home tie against Blackpool as that’s what Southampton have got.

That's exactly where we would be, except for Guaita's dreadful misplay of two balls, one of which was the result of Ward's embarrassing whiff on a routine header.

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 09 Jan 23 7.08am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

The way Ward ducked under it I wouldn't be surprised if he got a "Leave it" call from a team mate - I wasn't there & couldn't pick one up from the highlights, did anyone at the game hear anything ?

Originally posted by CT Charlie

That's exactly where we would be, except for Guaita's dreadful misplay of two balls, one of which was the result of Ward's embarrassing whiff on a routine header.

 

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rikz Flag Croydon 09 Jan 23 7.55am Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

So performances don't matter to you? It's dropped dramatically of late and better performances often yield better results.. Fulham losing 3 nil? Weakened spurs side thumping us 4-0. Today?
We can handle losses. We can't accept heads gone.

We prioritised bringing the average age of the squad down, we've got a young team, we are a midtable team in the strongest and most competitive league in the world. We will have poor runs and poor performances. Do you think we are going to play like City every week ?

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jan 23 8.23am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

We prioritised bringing the average age of the squad down, we've got a young team, we are a midtable team in the strongest and most competitive league in the world. We will have poor runs and poor performances. Do you think we are going to play like City every week ?

Regulars Guaita,Ward,Clyne,Schlupp, Ayew and Zaha are in their 30s.
Milivojevic who has mostly been on the bench is in his 30s.
Tomkins who played against Fulham is in his mid-30s.
Overall we don't have a youthful squad !

 

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The Dolphin Flag 09 Jan 23 8.23am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

To be fair to Vaibow and other posters - it is not about playing like City every week.
We have our own standards and our performances of late have fallen well below those standards.
Losing I can accept - it is the way that we lose that worries me.
PV was a combative midfield player with fire in his belly - that does not seem to be a directive given to some of our players.

 

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