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  georgenorman  28 Sep 22 10.41am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Beethoven's death march would be more appropriate. Having bankrupted the country in only 20 days how does your Truss glee club look now.
National debt as a percentage of GDP is higher in Japan, Greece, Italy, USA, Portugal, France and various third world countries.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 28 Sep 22 10.43am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
National debt as a percentage of GDP is higher in Japan, Greece, Italy, USA, Portugal, France and various third world countries. Which means they are in worse shape than the UK in terms of debt, what's your point? How does that support Steeleye's bankrupt statement? Edited by HKOwen (28 Sep 2022 1.06pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Sep 22 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
The annual benefits bill is about 220 billion. I don't blame people for claiming if, and I agree helping people who need it is important, but in most places in the world a large amount of people would have to fend for themselves and use initiative. I arrange car finance for people with bad credit through sub prime lenders and am genuinely shocked at how much money some people are claiming. Pray tell
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Sep 22 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I have voted Conservative all my life but when the nominations for the next party leader / Prime Minister were down to just two people I posted on here that if Cheese Lover Truss won I would never vote Conservative again and it looks like my mistrust of her ability is being proved right in just a few short weeks Find it very hard to argue against that stance. As ASCPFC has mentioned however, it can often take an, or a number of individuals, to ruin a party. I've swayed more towards individuals now as opposed to what now seem very much long lost if not entirely removed ideological identities of the parties.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Sep 22 10.46am |
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Originally posted by Willo
I shall be 'Hot-footing' up to Birmingham for Conference and will arrive in time for the opening debate on Sunday at 14.30. I am not expecting to hear the 'Archers' theme tune at the end of this prestigious event !
Can you tell us which colour and design of cravat you’ll be wearing to pick you out during the applause from the seals and drones in the audience who voted for the dregs on stage.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Sep 22 10.52am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I have voted Conservative all my life but when the nominations for the next party leader / Prime Minister were down to just two people I posted on here that if Cheese Lover Truss won I would never vote Conservative again and it looks like my mistrust of her ability is being proved right in just a few short weeks I couldn’t vote for this idiot and these fools. I say fools unless it’s pure cheating money onto the rich at the last opportunity, and therefore it’s ‘’ a disgrace’’ as Liz wound put it, but they’ll have their appeal again, just as labour run out of favour trying to please everyone without the never ending pot of money.
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| georgenorman 28 Sep 22 11.10am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Which means they are in worse shape than the UK in terms of debt, what's your point? How does that support your UK is bankrupt statement? I think you are confusing me with someone else!
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Sep 22 11.50am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
The annual benefits bill is about 220 billion. I don't blame people for claiming if, and I agree helping people who need it is important, but in most places in the world a large amount of people would have to fend for themselves and use initiative. I arrange car finance for people with bad credit through sub prime lenders and am genuinely shocked at how much money some people are claiming. How are people claiming benefits able to arrange financing on a car? Or come to that, able to afford to tax, insure and run a car. I am truly gobsmacked
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| Glazier#1 28 Sep 22 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I have always disagreed with privatising water. I would happily see rail nationalised if we could replicate the systems in Europe such as Italy or France, but they have outlawed strikes on essential services which Lynch and his outdated cronies would never accept. You have the ridiculous situation in UK where offers from employers do not have to be put to the membership for ballot so a few self serving union officials control the process. I still remember as a caveat the appalling service and constant strikes of British Rail, bit I don't remember having to stand very often which I think is a sign of vastly increased usage as the population has grown.
The 2008 banking crisis in UK was a result to a large extent of the deregulation that Blair and Brown instigated. You can see Andy Burnham grimacing during Starmer's speech as he plots his coup, giving Starmer the same look Stalin gave Trotsky Edited by HKOwen (28 Sep 2022 10.27am) My goodness! I never realised you were that old. Or maybe you're a Timelord. Tell us about the look Jesus gave to Barabbus
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Sep 22 12.58pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Suffice to say we are not aligned on this matter. Here is one of the 'great and good' Tory peer Lord Hannan, on recent events:- 'What we have seen since Friday is partly a market adjustment to the increased probability that Sir Keir Starmer will win in 2024 or 2025 - leading to higher taxes, higher spending, and a weaker economy'. How utterly ridiculous. 'Let us be clear on this'. Widely mocked, still shows the tories are good for a laugh, but the joke, as ever, is on us.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Sep 22 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Beethoven's death march would be more appropriate. Having bankrupted the country in only 20 days how does your Truss glee club look now.
so the country is bankrupt thing is something you made up, ok, fair enough
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Sep 22 1.12pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Here is one of the 'great and good' Tory peer Lord Hannan, on recent events:- 'What we have seen since Friday is partly a market adjustment to the increased probability that Sir Keir Starmer will win in 2024 or 2025 - leading to higher taxes, higher spending, and a weaker economy'. How utterly ridiculous. 'Let us be clear on this'. Widely mocked, still shows the tories are good for a laugh, but the joke, as ever, is on us.
Indeed I have perused Daniel's article and of course there is an array of opinions apropos recent events.
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