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Teddy Eagle 10 Aug 22 12.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Has long been a real bugbear of mine Spiderman!! It doesn't get as much exposure but I do like when the ball goes out for a defensive team's throw on, near enough next to their corner flag, and they end up throwing the ball into near the other half!! Madness. It's a huge difference between 'not quite the exact spot' and walking up the line at your leisure!! They should mark the spot where the throw is to be taken with the disappearing spray used for free kicks.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Aug 22 1.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
They should mark the spot where the throw is to be taken with the disappearing spray used for free kicks. I wholeheartedly agree Teddy!!
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Teddy Eagle 10 Aug 22 1.25pm | |
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Aug 22 1.46pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
I tend to agree with you on clock-stopping, however I suspect that such a rule would need to be accompanied by a reduction from 90 minutes, as I can't imagine today's prima donnas being able to survive an hour and a half's actual playing time. A couple of points, well-intentioned but no doubt some will accuse me of pedantry: 1. The ref's watch DOESN'T determine the length of a game. The ref is only responsible for bringing to an end the 2 or 3 (or 10 in the case of a top club that's losing) minutes at the end of a half that's been decreed by someone else. The ref therefore has a tiny bit of leeway to add a little extra on for any jiggery-pokery. The real issue, as you cover in your second paragraph, is actual time vs. playing time. 2. Yes, 5 subs will inevitably be potentially more disruptive, although I think it was discussed in the earlier thread that only 3 tactical substitution opportunities may be taken. For example, to get all 5 subs on tactically (rather than because of injury) might be done as 2 then another 2 then the final 1 (etc). Obviously allowing a variation on this in the event of injury will be massively open to abuse. Sorry YT, you are wrong on your 1st point. . . [Link]
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YT Oxford 10 Aug 22 2.28pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Sorry YT, you are wrong on your 1st point. . . [Link] I therefore stand corrected and apologise.....although I still can't believe it's true in practice!
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YT Oxford 10 Aug 22 2.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
There must have been a point in time when the 'line-o' was told to stop enforcing the law covering where the ball should be placed, because it would be such a simple one to enforce. I watched the greatest team in the history of football play in the Euro 22 final. Late in the game, England had a corner, and the kicker placed the ball way, way outside the quadrant. The line-o came and had a word...the ball was moved a bit....then there was a debate....then the ball was moved a bit more...then a bit more again. Anyway, the kick was eventually taken with the ball still outside the quadrant, but not as far outside as it had originally been placed.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Aug 22 3.16pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
I therefore stand corrected and apologise.....although I still can't believe it's true in practice! No probs mate & yes it is still true. When i 1st started out reffing(late 70's) we had club lino's, so i wore 2 watches, one being a stop watch. As i progressed up the ranks & got to county footie we had neutral lino's, so senior one ie bench side, also had a stop watch & hopefully ran his, same as mine. When i got to 'professional' footie we then had a 4th official & he was the one who kept time with the ref. Btw, i hated time wasting & would always add time on for it, general rule of thumb, was 30secs for subbing, dished a few cards out for abuse of that incl 1 red & didnt allow the sub on. Also, to your reply to another poster re corner kicks, its whole of the ball over whole of the line, but, in reverse. Edited by eagleman13 (10 Aug 2022 3.17pm)
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Teddy Eagle 10 Aug 22 4.21pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
No probs mate & yes it is still true. When i 1st started out reffing(late 70's) we had club lino's, so i wore 2 watches, one being a stop watch. As i progressed up the ranks & got to county footie we had neutral lino's, so senior one ie bench side, also had a stop watch & hopefully ran his, same as mine. When i got to 'professional' footie we then had a 4th official & he was the one who kept time with the ref. Btw, i hated time wasting & would always add time on for it, general rule of thumb, was 30secs for subbing, dished a few cards out for abuse of that incl 1 red & didnt allow the sub on. Also, to your reply to another poster re corner kicks, its whole of the ball over whole of the line, but, in reverse. Edited by eagleman13 (10 Aug 2022 3.17pm) Re. Corners p; isn't it some part of the ball must overhang some part of the D? What I mean is why do they do it at all? There can't be any real benefit. It's like whenever a free kick is given even in the player's own half he'll pick the ball up and move it forward a few inches. Again to no advantage.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Aug 22 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Re. Corners p; isn't it some part of the ball must overhang some part of the D? What I mean is why do they do it at all? There can't be any real benefit. It's like whenever a free kick is given even in the player's own half he'll pick the ball up and move it forward a few inches. Again to no advantage. The ball must be within the quadrant, therefore providing any part of the ball is within the quadrant (including touching/overhanging the outside of the line) this is permissible. Edited by Willo (10 Aug 2022 4.33pm)
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Teddy Eagle 10 Aug 22 4.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
The ball must be within the quadrant, therefore providing any part of the ball is within the quadrant (including touching/overhanging the outside of the line) this is permissible. Edited by Willo (10 Aug 2022 4.33pm) Yes, but why not put the ball down behind the line? It's not as if we're dealing with Johnny Giles landing the ball on a sixpence. Some of them have a problem getting it into the penalty area.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Aug 22 4.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes, but why not put the ball down behind the line? It's not as if we're dealing with Johnny Giles landing the ball on a sixpence. Some of them have a problem getting it into the penalty area. Perhaps due to the position of the flag, placing the ball as far as away from it as possible gives the kicker more room to execute the corner kick.
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 10 Aug 22 5.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Perhaps due to the position of the flag, placing the ball as far as away from it as possible gives the kicker more room to execute the corner kick. Wot, you mean like Alonso? [Link] I'm sure players always used to place most of the ball inside the quadrant. Just seems like another sneaky way to try to gain an advantage.
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