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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Jul 22 1.01pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by stayloa

In short, yes... It's not about believing your opinion or my opinion - it's about believing the work of thousands of experts in climate science analysing data over the course of decades.

Mike on Facebook who says he doesn't believe it all because of '76 and because he likes sitting in the garden with a Stella and his shirt off doesn't compete.

I'd be happy to reconsider my views if I was presented with scientific evidence, but a failure to "believe" it will be catastrophic for our kids and grandkids.

Don't get me wrong, I'm going to pop in the garden now on my lunch break and enjoy the sun but it's a truly worrying time...

Granted but they are generally offsetting results with the worst possible outcomes; not even using present emissions. If they gave there research with the best possible outcomes with present emissions I could go with it. This is what so called deniers are saying. Not that there may not be issues but at least give a fair set of results from best to worst. It’s all worst case not worst case ‘guaranteed’.
That’s the whole point. Science isn’t answered by numbers who agree, it’s by facts and atm because it’s only Worst case scenario they arnt facts.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Jul 22 1.06pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i do recall nutters telling us the World would be flooded by 2001.

shame there is so little accountability for erroneous predictions

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Jul 22 1.11pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i do recall nutters telling us the World would be flooded by 2001.

shame there is so little accountability for erroneous predictions

Tbh clacton might benefit, they all need a bath down there

 

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Pierre Flag Purley 18 Jul 22 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

my son lives in a 'Social housing' ground floor flat in Thornton Heath built in the 80's.
He has nice double doors that open to let in the air when he is awake and up moving around etc.
However when he sleeps these obviously have to be closed.
There are no vents or other openings that allow air to circulate between the outside of the flat through it to the communal hall areas.

I bet there are hundreds of thousands of modern flats and apartments that have been built exactly like this over the last 40-50 years, with swathes of glass affording lovely views etc but all causing the sun to heat them beyond a bearable temperature in the summer!

My son has to escape to our house when the weather is extreme as it just gets far to too hot with the sun beating down and there is a total lack of air running through the property.
Why has this basic requirement been missed by so many of these architects/ developers/planners for so many years?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jul 22 1.22pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i do recall nutters telling us the World would be flooded by 2001.

shame there is so little accountability for erroneous predictions

The end of the world has always been nigh. Whatever nigh means.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Jul 22 1.28pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

The end of the world has always been nigh. Whatever nigh means.

it meant Ian Paisley saying 'Now'

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jul 22 1.30pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

it meant Ian Paisley saying 'Now'

 


Red and Blue Army!

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 18 Jul 22 1.32pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Granted but they are generally offsetting results with the worst possible outcomes; not even using present emissions. If they gave there research with the best possible outcomes with present emissions I could go with it. This is what so called deniers are saying. Not that there may not be issues but at least give a fair set of results from best to worst. It’s all worst case not worst case ‘guaranteed’.
That’s the whole point. Science isn’t answered by numbers who agree, it’s by facts and atm because it’s only Worst case scenario they arnt facts.

A la COVID, the worst end of the ranges presented always get over reported... more sensation, more eyeballs. What you then don't read about so often is the mid range consensus which is much more realistic.

Ultimately whatever you 'believe' the point is this – it would be far better for everyone concerned if we didn't use fossil fuels. For so many many reasons. How we transition away from them, and how fast is the debate, not if we should. Build more nuclear, ramp up renewables (commercial and personal) and sack off unnecessary and frivolous use of single use plastics. That would be a good start.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Jul 22 1.47pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Pierre

my son lives in a 'Social housing' ground floor flat in Thornton Heath built in the 80's.
He has nice double doors that open to let in the air when he is awake and up moving around etc.
However when he sleeps these obviously have to be closed.
There are no vents or other openings that allow air to circulate between the outside of the flat through it to the communal hall areas.

I bet there are hundreds of thousands of modern flats and apartments that have been built exactly like this over the last 40-50 years, with swathes of glass affording lovely views etc but all causing the sun to heat them beyond a bearable temperature in the summer!

My son has to escape to our house when the weather is extreme as it just gets far to too hot with the sun beating down and there is a total lack of air running through the property.
Why has this basic requirement been missed by so many of these architects/ developers/planners for so many years?

Energy efficiency unfortunately. These places are sealed up like a space ship. As a gas engineer I am allowed a certain amount of free ventilation called adventitious ventilation for certain appliances. Nowadays I just give the amount it requires according to the KW. There is nothing adventitious in properties now. They have to prevent air leakage purely because physics states ‘heat will always go to cold’ hence in the winter when it’s 5 outside they don’t want heat being wasted by cracks around windows and vents in walls. No good for condensation but hey ho it is what it is.
You are meant to get 5 air changes an hour in bedrooms. That’s not possible, no wonder people get so ill nowadays.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 18 Jul 22 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Pierre

my son lives in a 'Social housing' ground floor flat in Thornton Heath built in the 80's.
He has nice double doors that open to let in the air when he is awake and up moving around etc.
However when he sleeps these obviously have to be closed.
There are no vents or other openings that allow air to circulate between the outside of the flat through it to the communal hall areas.

I bet there are hundreds of thousands of modern flats and apartments that have been built exactly like this over the last 40-50 years, with swathes of glass affording lovely views etc but all causing the sun to heat them beyond a bearable temperature in the summer!

My son has to escape to our house when the weather is extreme as it just gets far to too hot with the sun beating down and there is a total lack of air running through the property.
Why has this basic requirement been missed by so many of these architects/ developers/planners for so many years?

Putting too much thought into design costs money. That's it in a nutshell. As long as the building is standing after 5yrs, job done. Architect and developer are probably long-retired by now on their earnings

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Jul 22 1.51pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

A la COVID, the worst end of the ranges presented always get over reported... more sensation, more eyeballs. What you then don't read about so often is the mid range consensus which is much more realistic.

Ultimately whatever you 'believe' the point is this – it would be far better for everyone concerned if we didn't use fossil fuels. For so many many reasons. How we transition away from them, and how fast is the debate, not if we should. Build more nuclear, ramp up renewables (commercial and personal) and sack off unnecessary and frivolous use of single use plastics. That would be a good start.

Agreed it would do no harm to start the processes but it appears that we have to pay a lot more for the privilege from the same amount we have as before. If it were so serious and so urgent it would all be free and done already. This is my cynicism of the whole green thing. Anyhow CO2 isn’t the only gas affecting the planet, if it is that is. Don’t want posters picking it apart

 

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 18 Jul 22 1.53pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

We had quite a long hot summer in 1989. I remember it well because I was laid up in a small South Norwood flat with my leg in plaster and suffered with the heat a bit. We only had one main window to open and a small kitchen one and it was hell.

 

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