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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 9.00pm
Originally posted by cryrst So do you not think that's available now? Personally i think this has to be reciprocal from the population as well. Too many people want stuff and spoon feeding. Alongside an entitled attitude. Just my take of course. It might surprise you, and certainly will a few others here, that I completely agree with this. Is it available now? We are getting there, but there are some who would like to reverse the trend. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 9.00pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So do you not think that's available now?
Personally i think this has to be reciprocal from the population as well. Too many people want stuff and spoon feeding. Alongside an entitled attitude. Just my take of course.

It might surprise you, and certainly will a few others here, that I completely agree with this.

Is it available now? We are getting there, but there are some who would like to reverse the trend.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Matov 13 Feb 22 9.02pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Jeremy Corbyn: 'UK wrong to be prepared to get involved in war in Ukraine'. Keir Starmer: 'Under my leadership, Labour’s commitment to Nato is unshakable'. It's also unquestioning and wrong, another UK warmonger - its fortunate we cannot actually do anything anymore. Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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13 Feb 22 9.02pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Jeremy Corbyn: 'UK wrong to be prepared to get involved in war in Ukraine'.

Keir Starmer: 'Under my leadership, Labour’s commitment to Nato is unshakable'.

It's also unquestioning and wrong, another UK warmonger - its fortunate we cannot actually do anything anymore.

Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Spiderman Horsham 13 Feb 22 9.06pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Events always disturb the best of intentions, especially things like deep recessions caused by a banking crisis. I don't suppose the current mob intended to incur quite the level they have when they won in 2019! I mentioned an appreciation of the need to run a balanced budget, and that's true:- [Link] Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped? Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm)
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Horsham 13 Feb 22 9.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Events always disturb the best of intentions, especially things like deep recessions caused by a banking crisis.

I don't suppose the current mob intended to incur quite the level they have when they won in 2019!

I mentioned an appreciation of the need to run a balanced budget, and that's true:-

[Link]

Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped?

Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm)

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Stirlingsays 13 Feb 22 9.39pm
Originally posted by Matov Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings. That's probably the main weakness of representative democracy. Once the number one priority isn't to represent your members/electorate but instead what you think....well, then what you think can have a price and donators can dictate it. Hence elites don't only get control via the international banks and global bodies restricting policies or enabling them by access, elites get a slice of control via the cheque book. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2022 9.39pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Feb 22 9.39pm

Originally posted by Matov

Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings.

That's probably the main weakness of representative democracy. Once the number one priority isn't to represent your members/electorate but instead what you think....well, then what you think can have a price and donators can dictate it.

Hence elites don't only get control via the international banks and global bodies restricting policies or enabling them by access, elites get a slice of control via the cheque book.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2022 9.39pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 9.47pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped? Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm) That was the point I was making. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 9.47pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped?

Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm)

That was the point I was making.

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HeathMan Purley 13 Feb 22 10.00pm
What a lovely thought. Jeremy Corbyn a candidate for a different party. the Returning Officer saying I declare that Jeremy Corbyn, Monster Raving Looney Party, is duly elected.
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Purley 13 Feb 22 10.00pm

What a lovely thought. Jeremy Corbyn a candidate for a different party. the Returning Officer saying I declare that Jeremy Corbyn, Monster Raving Looney Party, is duly elected.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 10.28pm
Originally posted by Matov Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings. That's the strength of our representative democracy. The number one priority of our representatives is to do what their experience, and the information they access from experts, informs them is best for their constituents and the country, without being diverted by the need first consult the voters, let alone be bound by their views. The electorate's job starts, and finishes, when they choose who will represent them. If things go badly wrong, they can recall them, in certain circumstances. General elections are the moment when those representatives need to convince us that what has been done is what we needed, and what is planned, is what we need. If it isn't, we change them. "Elites", international banks, global bodies and cheque books don't vote. We do. We have all the controls needed. Conspiracy theorists are best ignored, as they peddle lies to try to undermine our faith in our institutions. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 10.28pm

Originally posted by Matov

That's the strength of our representative democracy. The number one priority of our representatives is to do what their experience, and the information they access from experts, informs them is best for their constituents and the country, without being diverted by the need first consult the voters, let alone be bound by their views.

The electorate's job starts, and finishes, when they choose who will represent them. If things go badly wrong, they can recall them, in certain circumstances.

General elections are the moment when those representatives need to convince us that what has been done is what we needed, and what is planned, is what we need. If it isn't, we change them.

"Elites", international banks, global bodies and cheque books don't vote. We do. We have all the controls needed. Conspiracy theorists are best ignored, as they peddle lies to try to undermine our faith in our institutions.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Mapletree Croydon 13 Feb 22 11.31pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Yep I read that too Matov. Pity they can't do something about his brother. Just as bad a character, if not worse. They seem a crazy pair. My neighbour used to meet with both of them, Starmer and others every second Tuesday. Said Jezza was barking, worse than his mad brother. Sir Keir was well liked and very down to earth.
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Croydon 13 Feb 22 11.31pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Yep I read that too Matov. Pity they can't do something about his brother. Just as bad a character, if not worse. They seem a crazy pair.

My neighbour used to meet with both of them, Starmer and others every second Tuesday. Said Jezza was barking, worse than his mad brother. Sir Keir was well liked and very down to earth.

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Feb 22 5.55am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That's the strength of our representative democracy. The number one priority of our representatives is to do what their experience, and the information they access from experts, informs them is best for their constituents and the country, without being diverted by the need first consult the voters, let alone be bound by their views. The electorate's job starts, and finishes, when they choose who will represent them. If things go badly wrong, they can recall them, in certain circumstances. General elections are the moment when those representatives need to convince us that what has been done is what we needed, and what is planned, is what we need. If it isn't, we change them. "Elites", international banks, global bodies and cheque books don't vote. We do. We have all the controls needed. Conspiracy theorists are best ignored, as they peddle lies to try to undermine our faith in our institutions. It's like an itch you can't reach isn't it!
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The garden of England 14 Feb 22 5.55am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The electorate's job starts, and finishes, when they choose who will represent them. If things go badly wrong, they can recall them, in certain circumstances.

General elections are the moment when those representatives need to convince us that what has been done is what we needed, and what is planned, is what we need. If it isn't, we change them.

It's like an itch you can't reach isn't it!

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The Dolphin 14 Feb 22 10.08am
Looks like a bit of a war coming up in the Labour Party! Brave to do it but probably the right move long term. Despite our various views on this forum I doubt any of us like extremism either way - it is no way to run a civilised society that's for sure. Corbyn is history now anyway so he might as well disappear.
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14 Feb 22 10.08am

Looks like a bit of a war coming up in the Labour Party!
Brave to do it but probably the right move long term.
Despite our various views on this forum I doubt any of us like extremism either way - it is no way to run a civilised society that's for sure.
Corbyn is history now anyway so he might as well disappear.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Feb 22 10.56am
Originally posted by cryrst It's like an itch you can't reach isn't it! Not at all. Persistence and patience will always find a way. Itches are like conspiracy theories. They all need to be resolutely dealt with and then forgotten as the annoying little distractions they are. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Feb 22 10.56am

Originally posted by cryrst

It's like an itch you can't reach isn't it!

Not at all. Persistence and patience will always find a way. Itches are like conspiracy theories. They all need to be resolutely dealt with and then forgotten as the annoying little distractions they are.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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