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Eaglecoops CR3 10 Feb 22 7.54pm | |
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Originally posted by sprites
Disagree - you can't field a team of youngsters. It's about finding the balance. Experience counts for an awful lot. Plus the players you've listed still have something to offer. There's a big difference between 29-31 and 36+. It's not like we're talking about Dann or Cahill last season. Potentially agree about Clyne if we're not going to use him, which it doesn't seem like we are. Not sure why you don’t agree perhaps you could elaborate. Rak-Sakyi or Olise for Ayew, Edouard, Mateta or Plange for Benteke, Eze or Edouard for Schlupp. Not sure where the loss of balance or experience is here and these players are all good enough (Rak-Sakyi, Plange of course still unproven at this level). The other players are young but they are not without PL experience. As others have mentioned elsewhere if you get a decent full back on the right you do not need Ayew to help out as much as he currently has to and Olise offers so much more going forwards and can score goals which is what forwards are primarily there for. We know we need new midfielders and Kelly/Clyne are superfluous other than as emergency cover. Milivojevic is past it and Ward should ultimately be held onto only as cover for a new right back. I agree you need experience but I also think you should move players on whilst they still have some value. I would maybe keep Ayew but the rest can go in my opinion and be improved upon by new signings. There is adequate experience in the rest of the team.
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sprites Auckland 10 Feb 22 8.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Not sure why you don’t agree perhaps you could elaborate. Rak-Sakyi or Olise for Ayew, Edouard, Mateta or Plange for Benteke, Eze or Edouard for Schlupp. Not sure where the loss of balance or experience is here and these players are all good enough (Rak-Sakyi, Plange of course still unproven at this level). The other players are young but they are not without PL experience. As others have mentioned elsewhere if you get a decent full back on the right you do not need Ayew to help out as much as he currently has to and Olise offers so much more going forwards and can score goals which is what forwards are primarily there for. We know we need new midfielders and Kelly/Clyne are superfluous other than as emergency cover. Milivojevic is past it and Ward should ultimately be held onto only as cover for a new right back. I agree you need experience but I also think you should move players on whilst they still have some value. I would maybe keep Ayew but the rest can go in my opinion and be improved upon by new signings. There is adequate experience in the rest of the team. Yeah, that's a fair comment. Sorry wasn't disagreeing with everything...I had interpreted your previous post as wanting to fill the team with youngsters. Therefore was merely stating the importance of experience and older figures in the dressing room etc. But I think we sort of agree, so all good.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Feb 22 10.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Of the attacking midfielders and outright attackers, Mateta, Edouard, Olise, Eze, Plange, Rak-Sakyi, are all young. Benteke 31, Ayew 30, Zaha 29, Schlupp 29 Given the direction we are heading and a move towards a more youthful squad, why would we look to move any of the young ones on. We should sell Benteke, Schlupp and Ayew along with Milivojevic, Kelly, Clyne, this summer and free up salaries to bring in 2 midfielders, a centre half and right back. If Zaha finally goes then a top replacement winger would also be a priority.
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sprites Auckland 10 Feb 22 10.17pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
There should definitely be takers. Playing in the right system, they've both still got a lot to offer. A newly promoted for example would benefit from Luka...and a team that puts lots of crosses in would see a lot of goals out of Benteke.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Feb 22 10.21pm | |
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Originally posted by sprites
There should definitely be takers. Playing in the right system, they've both still got a lot to offer. A newly promoted for example would benefit from Luka...and a team that puts lots of crosses in would see a lot of goals out of Benteke.
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sprites Auckland 10 Feb 22 10.25pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
That is the 90,000 question I suppose!
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 10 Feb 22 11.03pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Edouard has surely made more league appearances this season than all the players you’ve mentioned there - why on earth would he be the one moved on? He’s averaging a goal every 200 mins in a brand new league, with a lot of minutes off the wing, and has just turned 24.. I think he’s one of the best prospects at the club, and whilst I agree he hasn’t quite cracked leading the line yet, his talent is there to see. But he isn't in the first team
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sprites Auckland 10 Feb 22 11.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
But he isn't in the first team He's very much part of the first team. Just because someone doesn't get picked to start one week, doesn't suddenly make them not part the team. In fact there's no such thing as a 'first team' in premier league football anymore. It's about the squad. Horses for courses etc.
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aashman12 11 Feb 22 6.10pm | |
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We're a graveyard for strikers, we should revert to Roy's 4222 and have wilf plus 1 up top,
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Tickled pink Cornwall 12 Feb 22 6.11pm | |
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Must be so frustrating for the lot of them knowing there's a position there for the taking, it is now becoming as much a problem as Ferguson.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 12 Feb 22 6.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
Must be so frustrating for the lot of them knowing there's a position there for the taking, it is now becoming as much a problem as Ferguson. Mateta is by far the best CF, and he is only average, Edouard doesn't have a clue how to play CF, he may have been alright against the crap up in Scotland but he looks clueless now
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aashman12 12 Feb 22 7.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Mateta is by far the best CF, and he is only average, Edouard doesn't have a clue how to play CF, he may have been alright against the crap up in Scotland but he looks clueless now He's been much better playing off the left with mateta or big Ben in the middle, he's never a prem cf
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