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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 19 Dec 21 10.27am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I've seen reports that most people in hospital on oxygen or worse are unvaccinated so its likely you are correct. Thanks mate, I’m one of the lucky ones, it’s just felt like a cold, and not even the worst cold I’ve had. In fact the only reason I’m in bed with it is to keep out the way of the rest of the family. Also my isolation finishes Xmas Eve which is good timing
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Eaglehamster Storrington 19 Dec 21 10.45am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
How very Germanic.
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Eaglehamster Storrington 19 Dec 21 10.48am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Pure virtual signalling. Most people have never given blood....despite national campaigns. Most people have never donated an organ to keep another person alive.....despite national campaigns. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2021 5.39pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Dec 21 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
My wife is a nurse and she tells me that the vast majority of severe Covid patients in her hospital are unvaccinated The same anecdote I keep hearing/reading, yet the figure I think might be correct is 40%. Disproportionate, yes. The vast majority? I doubt it. Would everyone vaccinated relieve pressure on the NHS? I expect so. Should future freedom be based on health service pressure. What do you think? I wonder if players would have a different view if they were (already) on pay as you play rather than smothered in luxury and paid regardless of performance and professionalism.
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Dubai Eagle 19 Dec 21 10.50am | |
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Wonder how this sort of thing is viewed by the insurance companies that underwrite the players contract health insurances for the clubs - Would the club be able to say to the players - get vaccinated because our insurers are insisting on it ? (for example) Originally posted by Eaglehamster
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eaglesdare 19 Dec 21 11.18am | |
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Young, fit and healthy professionals making an informed decisions about their body not to be vaccinated! Over somthing that has less than a 1 percent morality rate of dying! And long term side effects unknown! I do not see the problem here!
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Mapletree Croydon 19 Dec 21 11.31am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The same anecdote I keep hearing/reading, yet the figure I think might be correct is 40%. Disproportionate, yes. The vast majority? I doubt it. Would everyone vaccinated relieve pressure on the NHS? I expect so. Should future freedom be based on health service pressure. What do you think? I wonder if players would have a different view if they were (already) on pay as you play rather than smothered in luxury and paid regardless of performance and professionalism. He said her hospital. No doubt it varies by region. It appears London is a particular hot spot for unvaccinated covid hospitalisations.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Dec 21 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Young, fit and healthy professionals making an informed decisions about their body not to be vaccinated! Over somthing that has less than a 1 percent morality rate of dying! And long term side effects unknown! I do not see the problem here! True. But they’ve lost their competitiveness due to covid infections and will have to play rearranged fixtures crammed closer together. It’s not much of a surprise that Liverpool, where the players are desperate to play, they’re all vaccinated. And incidentally, can we be spared any future hypocrisy over any more political or social issues - many will be going to a World Cup in Qatar with horrendous human rights laws. Oh and the covid/vax situation could get really interesting then. Edited by Rudi Hedman (19 Dec 2021 11.37am)
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Mapletree Croydon 19 Dec 21 11.35am | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Young, fit and healthy professionals making an informed decisions about their body not to be vaccinated! Over somthing that has less than a 1 percent morality rate of dying! And long term side effects unknown! I do not see the problem here! You do not include long covid. In particular you don’t consider to whom such people transmit the virus. Eventually almost everyone will have had Omnicron, it would be good to delay that until doctors have better ways to treat it and hospitals aren’t already full. At the moment this is heading to a dreadful NewYear.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Dec 21 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
He said her hospital. No doubt it varies by region. It appears London is a particular hot spot for unvaccinated covid hospitalisations. Indeed. I’m surprised a hospital in or near Truro has ‘the vast majority’ of its patients unvaccinated, seeing how they view the rest of the country infecting them in the summer. A lot of Lib Dem voters so could explain it. Unsure of vax rate down there. Parts of London are near zero, yes.
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eaglesdare 19 Dec 21 12.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
True. But they’ve lost their competitiveness due to covid infections and will have to play rearranged fixtures crammed closer together. It’s not much of a surprise that Liverpool, where the players are desperate to play, they’re all vaccinated. And incidentally, can we be spared any future hypocrisy over any more political or social issues - many will be going to a World Cup in Qatar with horrendous human rights laws. Oh and the covid/vax situation could get really interesting then. Edited by Rudi Hedman (19 Dec 2021 11.37am)
Sooner or later we will have to get on with our lives and actually cop onto ourselves! Other wise it's the same s*** every year or few months once "cases" rise. It's the same if 100 percent of people are vaxxed! Still have cases and new variants and s***e!
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Dec 21 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Sooner or later we will have to get on with our lives and actually cop onto ourselves! Other wise it's the same s*** every year or few months once "cases" rise. It's the same if 100 percent of people are vaxxed! Still have cases and new variants and s***e! It isn’t pretty clear now that regardless if you are vaccinated or not you can still catch, spread and transmit the virus just as easily as unvaccinated. And if it was, you’re less likely to become infected to pass it on. This is separate to whatever your view is on actions and restrictions.
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