Bingo!

A framework to deal with radicalisation should encompass all forms of it that are a danger to society and national security. It's fair that it should be based on the number of plots foiled though certainly. Radicalised religious outlooks can be one of the paths to terror.

We can only work from where we are. I'd be absolutely fine with a strict immigration policy, as who can deny that certain cultural problems have come about, but at the end of the day for those already here we still all have to share the same land mass and appreciate that commonalities exist not solely differences. Labeling any muslim coming here as a 'potential terrorist' is minority report conduct that also tars any muslim already here as a 'potential terrorist'. Or any muslims on this forum as a 'potential terrorist'.

You're surely as much as a 'potential terrorist' as the average muslim, on account that it's a phrase that means little.

It's important not to sweepingly demonise decent people, that's exactly what actual terrorists want as it drives further wedges between people. But yes, by all means track every dark corner online and off for those on the wrong path or looking to radiicalise others.

Edited by BlueJay (15 Nov 2021 1.21pm)

You mean like 'Prevent'?

Not only is that run ideologically but it was always doomed to fail due to the consequences of social liberalism....Prior to it idealists insisted on multiculturalism and the identity and separatism that naturally flows from that....Well, that was the last nail in which was already a difficult cohesion coffin.

What we have now are the predicted chickens coming home to roost. If you actually look at the security numbers and the demographical projections lets just say that I'm glad I'm not someone engaged in trying to make it work......People should be held responsible for creating this situation instead of blaming others for its consequences. But the criminal never convicts themselves do they.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2021 1.23pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Thats the only bit I take issue with, well not issue as such, more disagree.

If you are a Mormon ( to my knowledge at least) you're less likely to don a string vest wrapped to the nines in Semtex and nails, than say ohh I don't know, let's say for arguments sake a Muslim.

I'm no professor of probability theory, but if the Axioms could be applied to the mathematical Probability of which ever particular religions, (due to doctrine, etc) would be more the likely to produce fanatics, I'm fairly certain Islam would be in the top 1.

And whilst I am no believer in sweeping generalisations, to do with religious stereo typing, it is folly to ignore the evidence.

There's more than one way to skin a cat though as they say (or commit an act of terror). I wasn't implying that anyone is craving to put on a suicide vest or alternatively gun down those inside a mosque .. it was more a comment that while law enforcement weight logically has to be directed where most needed (radicalisation etc), given the population size the idea that every muslim is a 'potential terrorist' is vanishingly small and damaging to push, just as it is labelling anyone else in such a way.

Taken from a different angle, I would assume most rapists are men, most murderers are men etc, same with the majority of crimes.. but with that being the case I would hope that nobody would feel it reasonable to label each of us as 'potential rapists' or 'potential murderers'.

Edited by BlueJay (15 Nov 2021 1.50pm)

Anybody have maybe any idea as to why there might be a right wing terror threat?

Red and Blue Army!