Like you Im going to do the same as I thought like you and now waiting my turn in the stocks..
In fairness to Nuno, he was in the wrong club for his style of football, but it means we dodged a bullet. As for Viera well hes proved to be the one for us.

I think it's a tad early to pass judgement on PV as a manager. We have had significant investment on good players and the test for PV won't be here until we run into poor form.....when the players get use to him and the 'I'm inspired to play for PV' stuff stops...then it'll be interesting. That said, I'm enjoying PV style of play and again, I have to say Freedman's transfer activity was excellent.

I had no issues with PV incoming as I think all managers need to get their feet under the table and have their team playing their methods before you can know what you're dealing with.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2021 11.14am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I agree it's early doors and I was one who was hopeful the second time Vieira's name was mentioned. I was also not in favour of Nuno.

We are still very much in the honeymoon period with PV enjoying the refreshing change in style and seeing our t4am playing on the front foot.

However, other teams will work out our new style before too long and will make any adjustments they feel necessary to counter it. We will drop points against inferior teams (as we did against Newcastle) and will have our off days and, as you say, a dip in energy and consequently in form. Just as it was premature to judge PV on the opening few games as some were doing, so it is premature to do so now. The end of the year should give us a better idea of things, by when we will have played all the other teams at least once.

As for the points tally, I suggest that we had far harder opening 10 games this season than last. Indeed, if we exclude Brentford our points return in comparison to the corresponding fixtures last year is favourable, namely 11 from 9 as opposed to just 5 from 9 last year. Furthermore there's not a single fixture in which we did worse this year than last and the additional 6 points came in our games against Spurs, Newcastle and Citeh. The next 10 games should prove enlightening. If we exclude Watford and Norwich our return from the 8 corresponding fixtures last year was 12 points (4 wins and 4 defeats). If we better that this year, then we will be comfortably placed, especially if we beat the two promoted clubs as well.

Edited by doombear (02 Nov 2021 12.28pm)

Well that'll be me I can't quite believe what I am seeing, The style of play isn't something I have seen at Palace even under our successful attack minded mangers Sir Steve Big Mal & Venners.
Not that i am complaining but just speechless and can't believe it will last but by lord i hope I am wrong wrong and
wrong in every way

Massive difference between get behind the ball, a la Roy and go get the ball, a la Patrick.

He deserves so much credit for:

1) Getting the players to a level of fitness they have probably never experienced before.

2) Convincing them they are good enough for this league despite the rumblings (Ward and Mitchell in particular and Jimmy Mc is playing the best football of his career).

3) Bringing in a damn fine coach. The plaudits for Roberts are huge. What he did with a bang average Welsh team was incredible.

4) Inspiring the players to play a different brand of football and instilling a winning mentality. How often in the past would we have celebrated draws. The players now are gutted if they draw.

It's all a different mindset and its mostly down to our new manager. Long may it continue.

Edited by Eaglecoops (02 Nov 2021 2.05pm)

Anyone know (has bothered to count) how many of our goals have come directly from winning the ball back high?

And of those how many Gallagher won?