I realise that just mentioning economic migration will spark off a debate that is not so relevant to the post. I apologise for that but as the government appear to just noticing everything is connected.

I do not agree with Stirling’s view that Africans once they become richer will leave. People do not generally leave the places where they have grown up where their families live etc unless they are desperate and see no future there. Investment will stabilise Africa. I know that there is a lot of cynicism in the West about how money is used in the developing world. This is largely because the West has in the past just seen Africa as an asset that can produce wealth for the west.

Investment in Africa is vital, however, I think that “Johnson’s Global Britain” will find that China already have their towels all over the sun loungers. The investments that China have been making in infrastructure are massive. As the US has declined over the past twenty years China has stepped in and stepped up.

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It is how they invest that is so radically different. Not just lending money or selling expensive engineering. They are interested in long term partnerships that involve education and technology sharing. And they will not tolerate the corruption that the west has so often been willing to ignore or encourage. They are not seeking an empire more a confederation of nations that are subservient to China and aligned to China’s interests. I personally find this very worrying but that’s a different subject.

“In 2003 there were only 1,793 African students enrolled in Chinese universities, the number has risen to 81,562 students in 2018, increasing by 4,549% in a 15-year period, or by 303% annually”.
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A large part of the forces that have seen the cost of solar PV fall in the past decade has been driven by China seeing Africa as a “no brainer’ as regarding sales. Virtually all PV sold in Africa are made and designed in China. Europe, the US and Global Britain have virtually no chance of entering this market. The US does lead in battery technology but again China is catching up fast.

Africa is going to feel the effects of climate change sooner and with more ferocity than other parts of the world. It is inevitable that this will cause migration as many places will become uninhabitable. As it is the developed world that has caused these problems it is our moral responsibility to help solve them. Just as we should offer asylum for people feeling oppression we must also consider that refugees from climate change will soon be an increasing problem. Countries like Australia will perhaps be uninhabitable in twenty years time. It is increasingly likely that as that happens we will see large numbers of people seeking to relocate.

Africa has many problems but also it has increasable resources. Large populations of increasingly well-educated people will be a great advantage and this will be the reason that global companies will increasingly invest there. If, (it’s a big if), political stability can be achieved there is great hope for the future.

Returning to the post subject China is looking at fission, but they make no claims that it will have any useful applications for at least 30 years
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Interesting points.

We shall disagree over the African immigration issue and over what moral responsibilities entail but I won't reply on it as our resident 'racism crusader' gets very excited if he spots an opportunity.

I'm afraid that will also have to include how climate change could affect immigration policies as it runs into the same issue.

So it's best to keep it strictly to fusion and away from immigration issues, at least with me.

China, which of course isn't a democracy, has an export led economy which is running into trouble as wages rise and the middle class expands....though their lack of transparency means that an honest analysis is always difficult.

I certainly see their hands in Africa and in the renewable industry generally and while they will exploit Africa for all its worth they will also pump money into it and the same tickle down will be in effect.

We agree that fusion is a worthwhile research area but one which is open to exaggeration in the west. Regardless, its pursuit will cost large investment and if China are also on that path then I view that as positive. History shows us that whoever makes a significant scientific breakthrough rarely gets to keep its spoils and secrets for long and China will be subject to the same underhand tactics that they pursue against the west.

So the more hands to the pump the better.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Very good.

Fortunately an immigrant has taken his job.

I'll just mention the fact....and it is a fact that, aside from capitalist ventures, many of which failed, the west has pumped many billions in aid into Africa over many decades.

None of that money is coming back.

Revisionism always seems to fail to mention that.

However, everyone can see the natural advantage Africa and equator countries have for solar and most believe that will form a part of a brighter future, if you forgive the pun......though in countries without the necessary stability it won't happen.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Explain my knowledge?

Let me see. Well I read books and learn stuff. You should try it.

I am neither sad, little, nor a racist. You aren't very good at this, are you.

At least while you are preoccupied with your feeble attempts at trolling me, the others can have an adult conversation about the topic.

I'm happy to draw your fire. You are just firing blanks, after all.