So you don’t think people voted for less immigration = less suppression of wages = more money & better conditions. Okay pal. This matter surrounding this crisis because immigration has been used to exploit and keep wages down seems a surprise to you. It isn’t a surprise to many who voted Brexit but somehow it is to you. Good one.

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I just find all of the revisionism hilarious - Brexiteers dismissed every and any concern about Brexit as Project Fear, and now so many of you sit there and claim this was always to be expected and we knew what we were voting for - it's just demonstrably untrue.

You claimed everyone was willingly voting for a 'correction in the labour market' - it's a huge stretch to claim that any vague anti-immigration sentiment was voting for that.

Remember when remainers accused leavers of voting for anti-immigrant reasons, and there was a load of faux-outrage that this was not true and it was all about sovereignty and whatever other s***e was being peddled at the time.. now we've done a full 180!

I agree wage suppression has been an issue for years - the pretence is that Brexiters (who mostly vote Tory) have ever given a sh*t about it.

Boris and Rees-Mogg; the champions of unskilled workers, aye?

The problem being all the foresight needed was going to cost money to implement. The same applies to any ideas of paying higher and higher wages. There is a huge problem in all of this, called the cost of living, because the consumer always picks up the tab.
I never thought I would hear Tory MPs and their press , telling companies to pay more out in wages. But I suppose anything beats admitting that their Brexit always had these huge flaws in its implementation.

Your recollection of events is a little off with mine.

The only leavers who pushed the 'leaving EU isn't about immigration' where the official campaign led by Dominic Cummings. It's well known that they deliberately chose to push the secondary reason for leaving which was 'taking back control' over the primary one of immigration to maximise the leave vote amongst the 'independents'....or those that were frightened of the 'racism' tactics employed by many remainers.

They left the 'immigration' angle to Farage and the unofficial leave campaigns.

The reality was that most people who voted leave did so because of 'freedom of movement'....this isn't even contested really....even Cameron knew that it was the pivotal policy and begged Merkel to shift on it....which she wouldn't.

Wonderful woman.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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