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thai-eagle chiang mai 20 Sep 21 11.13am | |
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..but still, his basic passing is simply not good enough for PL!
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HolmesdaleUpper Sanderstead 20 Sep 21 11.45am | |
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Joel Ward is a Premiership quality defender. We are much better defensively with him in the side than not. Every manager in recent years have consistently selected him when fit. Yes he has his limitations going forward but as some on here have agreed there have been signs of improvement this year.
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gerry theagle newbury 20 Sep 21 12.30pm | |
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Having been to all the matches so for this season I have to say that Wardy certainly hasn't let the team down in fact he has if anything improved on last season.
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silvertop Portishead 20 Sep 21 1.14pm | |
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Originally posted by HolmesdaleUpper
Joel Ward is a Premiership quality defender. We are much better defensively with him in the side than not. Every manager in recent years have consistently selected him when fit. Yes he has his limitations going forward but as some on here have agreed there have been signs of improvement this year. Based on previous seasons experience, most posters on here (me inc) didn't think Eze would play until at least the New year. Now it appears he is fit today, but needs game time to get him match fit. If we can hopefully apply this to Ferguson, he is slated to be physically fit by November. Having been out much longer than Eze, I have to assume he will take longer to get him match fit. However, he is still very young, was England U21 level, and as testament to his quality, the West Brom coach at the time was publicly furious to see him go. Therefore, he may feature; and sooner than we all believed. If he does, we maybe seeing the back of a certain Nat Clyne.
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 20 Sep 21 3.08pm | |
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Originally posted by gerry theagle
Having been to all the matches so for this season I have to say that Wardy certainly hasn't let the team down in fact he has if anything improved on last season. He's definitely improved his game since last season Gerry and I rate him even though I don't attend matches!
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 20 Sep 21 3.47pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Based on previous seasons experience, most posters on here (me inc) didn't think Eze would play until at least the New year. Now it appears he is fit today, but needs game time to get him match fit. If we can hopefully apply this to Ferguson, he is slated to be physically fit by November. Having been out much longer than Eze, I have to assume he will take longer to get him match fit. However, he is still very young, was England U21 level, and as testament to his quality, the West Brom coach at the time was publicly furious to see him go. Therefore, he may feature; and sooner than we all believed. If he does, we maybe seeing the back of a certain Nat Clyne. Personally, im not so sure. Given the severity of 'Fergies' injury, its very feasible he could break down again & probably at the most inopportune moment. I think Clyne will be here for the foreseeable, seeing as i doubt we'll see NF till end of this, but next season. Just my opinion.
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Ipswich Eagle Ipswich 20 Sep 21 3.49pm | |
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Thought he had a great game, and as someone else said I just don't get where the disproportionate amount of criticism comes from. He's not especially useful or flash going forwards, but luckily he plays Full Back then isn't it. If the worst thing we had to worry about our starting 11 was JW we'd be in a happy place.
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est1905 20 Sep 21 5.25pm | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
Everyone has their own opinion but the guy is not Premiership quality going forward and hasn't been for a few seasons now. He is very basic in his attacking play and takes to long to make decisions going forward. Complete rubbish. Kelly can play right back, as can Tomkins. There is a good reason PV picks Wardy every game.
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 20 Sep 21 5.40pm | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Complete rubbish. Kelly can play right back, as can Tomkins. There is a good reason PV picks Wardy every game. Yes there is... It's because he's the only right back that's ever been available to PV.. Kelly and Tomkins are centre backs so why on earth would he consider playing them right back?? And you claim I don't know what I'm talking about... How funny.
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silvertop Portishead 20 Sep 21 6.11pm | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
Yes there is... It's because he's the only right back that's ever been available to PV.. Kelly and Tomkins are centre backs so why on earth would he consider playing them right back?? And you claim I don't know what I'm talking about... How funny. Clyne? Also see Joel's post match interview. Overt criticism of the ref. Sailing close to wind but not wrong.
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 20 Sep 21 6.20pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Clyne? Also see Joel's post match interview. Overt criticism of the ref. Sailing close to wind but not wrong. Think people are getting way to defensive here or some just over reacting completely. I haven't said Ward is no good or is rubbish. I've simply expressed an opinion that I believe if we want to move forward and better ourselves he is not good enough in his forward play to take us to that next level. It was fine under Roy because he and some sections of the support were more than happy treading water. I'd like to think that we are now in a new era under Viera and looking to push on. Disagree if you want I couldn't care less but that's my opinion so I'll stand by it... Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (20 Sep 2021 6.23pm)
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 20 Sep 21 6.55pm | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
Think people are getting way to defensive here or some just over reacting completely. I haven't said Ward is no good or is rubbish. I've simply expressed an opinion that I believe if we want to move forward and better ourselves he is not good enough in his forward play to take us to that next level. It was fine under Roy because he and some sections of the support were more than happy treading water. I'd like to think that we are now in a new era under Viera and looking to push on. Disagree if you want I couldn't care less but that's my opinion so I'll stand by it... Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (20 Sep 2021 6.23pm) Hi Deano, in my opinion the right back area is clearly one that the club have looked towards improving. Hence the signing of Ferguson. But with so much other change required during the summer, there were higher priorities than right back. Ferguson may ultimately prove to be the answer, but in the meantime we have 2 highly experienced players in Clyne and Ward....and I think Joel is currently enjoying a good spell of form although his distribution lets him down at times.
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