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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Sep 21 12.30pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

the terms & language used, id guess.
people would have a meltdown if that was aired today
(even though Warren Mitchell used to make it crystal that Alf was the butt of the joke)

Nuance and intelligence don't exist anymore. It's race and gender diversity just shoved unapologetically into your face these days, with scripts written by non binary arts students and directed by someone equally detached from any real life experience. The writers just try to put in as much woke crap as possible. Hey presto, you have a series. Add in some indie bongo music and you get either a Netflix or BBC series.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 19 Sep 21 12.33pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This was pretty good too. He was had a fairly good voice

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A talented guy, no doubt. I always liked his Cowboy Dreams song. He did a musical with Sting I believe years back, so keeps plugging away musically!

 

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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 19 Sep 21 12.35pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Nuance and intelligence don't exist anymore. It's race and gender diversity just shoved unapologetically into your face these days, with scripts written by non binary arts students and directed by someone equally detached from any real life experience. The writers just try to put in as much woke crap as possible. Hey presto, you have a series. Add in some indie bongo music and you get either a Netflix or BBC series.

netflix are royally f***ing any interest in films.
should be re-named Wokeflix.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Sep 21 12.43pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


we often confuse an actor with their characters.

Who would expect James Gandalfini to extort money out of you ?

i had always thought Timothy Spall to be a Brummie. Amazed he is one of us.

And Spall being from Battersea i am thrilled it will upset millwall.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Teddy Eagle Flag 19 Sep 21 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


we often confuse an actor with their characters.

Who would expect James Gandalfini to extort money out of you ?

i had always thought Timothy Spall to be a Brummie. Amazed he is one of us.

And Spall being from Battersea i am thrilled it will upset millwall.

He was briefly in Quadrophenia as a projectionist and he didn’t sound at all Brummie in that!

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 19 Sep 21 1.00pm

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

netflix are royally f***ing any interest in films.

They also have a habit of making really cr@p, cheap rip-offs of new releases. 'Mockbusters' I believe they are called.

 

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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 19 Sep 21 1.50pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

They also have a habit of making really cr@p, cheap rip-offs of new releases. 'Mockbusters' I believe they are called.

yes.
remember this used be done 80s / 90s with VHS videos spinning out a very similar named, only on video rip off
of a big hollywood film.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Fatherken Flag 19 Sep 21 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

I worked in Germany in 1972 as a bricklayer [ gave it up as my back went ] and the first series was very near to how it was . The second and onwards series lost it's way and I lost all interested in it .

 

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jeeagles Flag 19 Sep 21 2.39pm

Originally posted by BlueJay
They also have a habit of making really cr@p, cheap rip-offs of new releases. 'Mockbusters' I believe they are called.

Only watched the recent two series. Nice show with down to earth characters simply trying to get by whilst experiencing extraordinary situation. It's a tried and tested formula for good, simply, TV.

The problem with American TV is that it's always written to a target demographic they can sell too. Also, typical of America is that every series has to be bigger, louder and more epic than the last.

There's a few Netflix Original shows I like, but you always get the feeling that the programme was developed by A) Looking at a demographic they need to sell more content to B) Finding things that demographic used to be interested in C) Make an programme.

All the plot lines are far too obvious.
Attempts to be PC lack subtly and tend to be fairly condescending.

British writers tend to write something they think is good, and then look to sell it. Which is a much better way of writing creative TV.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Sep 21 3.00pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

A talented guy, no doubt. I always liked his Cowboy Dreams song. He did a musical with Sting I believe years back, so keeps plugging away musically!

Any thoughts Ollies Dad Ash?

 


Pro USA & Israel

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BlueJay Flag UK 19 Sep 21 3.16pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Only watched the recent two series. Nice show with down to earth characters simply trying to get by whilst experiencing extraordinary situation. It's a tried and tested formula for good, simply, TV.

The problem with American TV is that it's always written to a target demographic they can sell too. Also, typical of America is that every series has to be bigger, louder and more epic than the last.

There's a few Netflix Original shows I like, but you always get the feeling that the programme was developed by A) Looking at a demographic they need to sell more content to B) Finding things that demographic used to be interested in C) Make an programme.

All the plot lines are far too obvious.
Attempts to be PC lack subtly and tend to be fairly condescending.

British writers tend to write something they think is good, and then look to sell it. Which is a much better way of writing creative TV.


Well observed regarding the PC point, I'm all for series addressing fresh or different perspectives because clearly those have been lacking in the past (when there is no need for that to be the case), but in trying to address that they can often come across as a box ticking exercise rather than fleshing characters out who happen to fit a specific demographic profile.

I do think there's a different approach across the pond. It's very much 'follow the money'. You also see it in the way that even quality series go on far too long and often go off the rails as they attempt to squeeze the last bit of commercial success out of them.


 

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 19 Sep 21 5.14pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

I’m on the Facebook group and it’s amazing the impact the first two series had. Even now, 35 years later people travel across the country to visit places where it was filmed. Nottingham, Derbyshire and obviously Newcastle. Also Ally Frazier’s villa in Spain is much visited

 

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