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CrazyBadger Ware 15 Sep 21 9.15am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad 16 goal in four seasons, 6m a year, 1.5m a goal, fantastic isn't it. undoubtedly with Sakho the worst ever signings, money wise, and Glenn Murray twice the player of CB, given away, Pardew has a lot to answer for. Think your being overly harsh on him. this is the same argument as Heskey - a striker that didn't score goals, But the team plays better with him in it. I'm not saying he's great - his movement in the box is shocking - but he was our best option for ages. OE has come in now - will he prove he has enough to take over from Benteke? In this team, I think so. certainly his first 20 minutes were promising. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 15 Sep 21 9.15am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

16 goal in four seasons, 6m a year, 1.5m a goal, fantastic isn't it. undoubtedly with Sakho the worst ever signings, money wise, and Glenn Murray twice the player of CB, given away, Pardew has a lot to answer for.

Think your being overly harsh on him. this is the same argument as Heskey - a striker that didn't score goals, But the team plays better with him in it.

I'm not saying he's great - his movement in the box is shocking - but he was our best option for ages.
OE has come in now - will he prove he has enough to take over from Benteke? In this team, I think so. certainly his first 20 minutes were promising.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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TheBigToePunt 15 Sep 21 9.39am
Having watched Leeds try to take the game to Liverpool only to get hammered to feck every single time Liverpool won the ball back, I'd be surprised and concerned if Vieria wanted us to press them high up the pitch. Result aside, this will be an interesting indicator of how flexible and practical a coach Vieria is. Does he act all brave and stick with his preferred system and plan, or does he tweak it given the strength of the opponent?
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15 Sep 21 9.39am

Having watched Leeds try to take the game to Liverpool only to get hammered to feck every single time Liverpool won the ball back, I'd be surprised and concerned if Vieria wanted us to press them high up the pitch.

Result aside, this will be an interesting indicator of how flexible and practical a coach Vieria is. Does he act all brave and stick with his preferred system and plan, or does he tweak it given the strength of the opponent?

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Red-Blue-Yellow Surrey 15 Sep 21 12.01pm
The Bench is as important for this game as the starting 11. If the high press goes tits-up PV needs a plan B, if it works then we have to stay 'fresh' for 90 minutes. Assuming 4-3-3 again, the only change I'd like to see is a front 3 of Zaha, Benteke and Edouard with 2 central and Wilf on either side as the mood takes him. I'm sure Benteke would provide the presence to give Edouard room and a few knock downs.
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The Bench is as important for this game as the starting 11. If the high press goes tits-up PV needs a plan B, if it works then we have to stay 'fresh' for 90 minutes.
Assuming 4-3-3 again, the only change I'd like to see is a front 3 of Zaha, Benteke and Edouard with 2 central and Wilf on either side as the mood takes him. I'm sure Benteke would provide the presence to give Edouard room and a few knock downs.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 15 Sep 21 12.42pm
Originally posted by CrazyBadger Think your being overly harsh on him. this is the same argument as Heskey - a striker that didn't score goals, But the team plays better with him in it. I'm not saying he's great - his movement in the box is shocking - but he was our best option for ages. OE has come in now - will he prove he has enough to take over from Benteke? In this team, I think so. certainly his first 20 minutes were promising. Everybody is entitled to their opinion about Benteke, i respect it but disagree “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 15 Sep 21 12.42pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Think your being overly harsh on him. this is the same argument as Heskey - a striker that didn't score goals, But the team plays better with him in it.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion about Benteke, i respect it but disagree

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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daven Hailsham 15 Sep 21 12.54pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad I think that Guaita is too far out of his goal. 50% of the time he doesn't hold it up and loses possession, FFS he is a liability. Guaita ClyneAndersonGuehiMitchell *****LukaKouyate*** *****Gallagher********* Olise****************Wilf ********Edouard***********
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daven

Hailsham 15 Sep 21 12.54pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
I think that Guaita is too far out of his goal.

50% of the time he doesn't hold it up and loses possession, FFS he is a liability.

Guaita

Clyne*Anderson**Guehi*Mitchell

*******Luka****Kouyate*******
*********Gallagher***********
*Olise******************Wilf*
**********Edouard*************

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Aray South London 17 Sep 21 11.30am
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt Having watched Leeds try to take the game to Liverpool only to get hammered to feck every single time Liverpool won the ball back, I'd be surprised and concerned if Vieria wanted us to press them high up the pitch. Result aside, this will be an interesting indicator of how flexible and practical a coach Vieria is. Does he act all brave and stick with his preferred system and plan, or does he tweak it given the strength of the opponent? I doubt he'll change the team from what started last week. It won and was effective. Although he didn't score, Benteke was part of that winning performance. Even Ayew played his part. Ihink we'll press but it is how we get the ball up the pitch that will be key. I reckon we'll be more direct. [Link]
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South London 17 Sep 21 11.30am

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I doubt he'll change the team from what started last week. It won and was effective. Although he didn't score, Benteke was part of that winning performance. Even Ayew played his part. Ihink we'll press but it is how we get the ball up the pitch that will be key. I reckon we'll be more direct.

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Crystal_Clear Belfast 17 Sep 21 12.15pm
I feel that PV is someone that doesn't want to change things week in week out. The successful Arsenal sides had a settled 1st XI. That being said, it depends what has happened in training this week. Maybe Edouard has shown enough to get ahead of Benteke already. I think the the rest of the team will be the same. He will keep Ayew on the right for this work ethic, though as time goes by you feel Olise will get that spot. Midfield is interesting, Gallagher is a given, but the rest will be fighting for places. With only 2 places up for grabs, with 4 midfielders in Kouyate, McArthur, Luka and Hughes. And longer term there Eze to come back as well.
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Belfast 17 Sep 21 12.15pm

I feel that PV is someone that doesn't want to change things week in week out. The successful Arsenal sides had a settled 1st XI.

That being said, it depends what has happened in training this week.

Maybe Edouard has shown enough to get ahead of Benteke already.

I think the the rest of the team will be the same. He will keep Ayew on the right for this work ethic, though as time goes by you feel Olise will get that spot.

Midfield is interesting, Gallagher is a given, but the rest will be fighting for places. With only 2 places up for grabs, with 4 midfielders in Kouyate, McArthur, Luka and Hughes. And longer term there Eze to come back as well.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 17 Sep 21 12.40pm
I hope we play with some balls. There's something in this game for us if we do. 100%. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I hope we play with some balls. There's something in this game for us if we do. 100%.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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taylors lovechild 17 Sep 21 12.49pm
For the first time Bentenke has real competition. I think PV will keep an unchanged team, but with Edouard's pace he will offer a genuine threat from the bench against tiring legs. Ayew will probably also start but he really needs to start offering more or I can't see him keeping his place for much longer. Likewise if Kouyate's passing doesn't improve then Luka and possibly Hughes might start knocking on PV's door. Viera does not seem like a manager that will ever park the bus, so it will be interesting to see how the game pans out.
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For the first time Bentenke has real competition. I think PV will keep an unchanged team, but with Edouard's pace he will offer a genuine threat from the bench against tiring legs. Ayew will probably also start but he really needs to start offering more or I can't see him keeping his place for much longer. Likewise if Kouyate's passing doesn't improve then Luka and possibly Hughes might start knocking on PV's door.

Viera does not seem like a manager that will ever park the bus, so it will be interesting to see how the game pans out.

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MrRobbo Chaldon 17 Sep 21 12.57pm
If Luka is fit enough I’d like to see him in the team, in place for Kouyate. That long pass in the build up was beautiful, and could add another dimension for us. Agree with others that Bentenke and Ayew probably start, but will start to be replaced in time, or against the right opponents.
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Chaldon 17 Sep 21 12.57pm

If Luka is fit enough I’d like to see him in the team, in place for Kouyate. That long pass in the build up was beautiful, and could add another dimension for us.

Agree with others that Bentenke and Ayew probably start, but will start to be replaced in time, or against the right opponents.

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silvertop Portishead 17 Sep 21 1.32pm
Originally posted by CrazyBadger Think your being overly harsh on him. this is the same argument as Heskey - a striker that didn't score goals, But the team plays better with him in it. I'm not saying he's great - his movement in the box is shocking - but he was our best option for ages. OE has come in now - will he prove he has enough to take over from Benteke? In this team, I think so. certainly his first 20 minutes were promising. Correct and what's Pardew got to do with anything?
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Portishead 17 Sep 21 1.32pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Think your being overly harsh on him. this is the same argument as Heskey - a striker that didn't score goals, But the team plays better with him in it.

Correct and what's Pardew got to do with anything?

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Sep 21 1.35pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild For the first time Bentenke has real competition. I think PV will keep an unchanged team, but with Edouard's pace he will offer a genuine threat from the bench against tiring legs. Ayew will probably also start but he really needs to start offering more or I can't see him keeping his place for much longer. Likewise if Kouyate's passing doesn't improve then Luka and possibly Hughes might start knocking on PV's door. Viera does not seem like a manager that will ever park the bus, so it will be interesting to see how the game pans out. Which is essentially what he has just said in the pre-match press conference. He wants his team to be brave and cause Liverpool problems. However, I expect there will be a greater emphasis on defence than in the three previous games where we had either the majority of possession or our fair share. His response re Benteke v Edouard suggests he may start with Benteke.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Sep 21 1.35pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Viera does not seem like a manager that will ever park the bus, so it will be interesting to see how the game pans out.

Which is essentially what he has just said in the pre-match press conference. He wants his team to be brave and cause Liverpool problems. However, I expect there will be a greater emphasis on defence than in the three previous games where we had either the majority of possession or our fair share.

His response re Benteke v Edouard suggests he may start with Benteke.

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