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bicycle repair man 14 Sep 21 4.39pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Hard to say he flourished without seeing Eze under another manager - I'd argue Eze is so talented he would've made an impact whoever was in charge. I certainly remember plenty of games last year where Eze played as an auxiliary left back and had no meaningful contributions in an attacking sense.
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jeeagles 14 Sep 21 4.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
Made one scored one and looked like a player we never saw at Palace. Said -- most diplomatically-- that Roy drilled him to show great defensive discipline but Benitez doesn't want him defending at all. His mum sent him a video montage of his highlights to remind him of his talents. It was actually poignant to hear. It made me feel he regretted his time with us in some respects, although he said no such thing. And made me also think what a caged bird Wilf has been for so long. It would be nice if we could continue attacking and giving Wilf a final chance to shine as the curtain slowly starts to come down on his career. It's clear. Townsend's mum was a better coach than Roy When Townsend joined us, he was selected for England, by Hodgson, ahead of Zaha who was completely shut out. After, 4 years of Royball everyone thought he was wash up and failed. A good gauge of a Managers ability is how well the team/players do after the manager leaves. Palace are playing better, Townsend is playing better. Liverpool, West Brom, and England also improved after he left. As for "not having the resources" he was offerred Gallagher and selected Batshuayi.
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 14 Sep 21 4.57pm | |
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man
That's nonsense, Eze flourished under Roy. It's not nonsense if you read what I said properly... I didn't say Eze was poor under Roy did I??... I said he would of ended up the same under Roy, as in the same as Zaha and Townsend did.
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bicycle repair man 14 Sep 21 5.01pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
It's clear. Townsend's mum was a better coach than Roy When Townsend joined us, he was selected for England, by Hodgson, ahead of Zaha who was completely shut out. After, 4 years of Royball everyone thought he was wash up and failed. A good gauge of a Managers ability is how well the team/players do after the manager leaves. Palace are playing better, Townsend is playing better. Liverpool, West Brom, and England also improved after he left. As for "not having the resources" he was offerred Gallagher and selected Batshuayi.
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bicycle repair man 14 Sep 21 5.03pm | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
It's not nonsense if you read what I said properly... I didn't say Eze was poor under Roy did I??... I said he would of ended up the same under Roy, as in the same as Zaha and Townsend did. Zaha started scoring goals, like he never did before Roy arrived .
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est1905 14 Sep 21 5.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
Made one scored one and looked like a player we never saw at Palace. Said -- most diplomatically-- that Roy drilled him to show great defensive discipline but Benitez doesn't want him defending at all. His mum sent him a video montage of his highlights to remind him of his talents. It was actually poignant to hear. It made me feel he regretted his time with us in some respects, although he said no such thing. And made me also think what a caged bird Wilf has been for so long. It would be nice if we could continue attacking and giving Wilf a final chance to shine as the curtain slowly starts to come down on his career. PV himself said when interviewed after the game Saturday that Roy laid the solid defensive foundations from which he has been able to build from. Said we would not be this far forward in our transition if not for the work Roy had done. We dont have tens of millions to build a solid defence/midfield. We had to look for bargains and drill them while making even our attacking players disciplined when it comes to defensive duties.
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est1905 14 Sep 21 5.24pm | |
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man
Zaha started scoring goals, like he never did before Roy arrived . Agree, the Roy haters just refuse to let it go or give the man any credit.
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 14 Sep 21 5.32pm | |
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man
Zaha started scoring goals, like he never did before Roy arrived . He was hardly a goal scoring machine under Roy was he? I think one season he scored 4?? Wilf in any side will weigh in with between 5-10 goals a season due to his natural ability and that was roughly his numbers every season with RH in charge. To try and suggest he flourished under Roy is to funny. The Wilf we saw on Saturday was the real Wilf. One we haven't seen for a long time. I think his post match comments sum up his frustrations on our style of football over the last few years.
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 14 Sep 21 5.35pm | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Agree, the Roy haters just refuse to let it go or give the man any credit. It's not about hating on Roy. I've clearly given him credit in my earlier post. It seems that the Roy lovers just refuse to admit that the 'football' under Roy was just awful.
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bicycle repair man 14 Sep 21 6.04pm | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
He was hardly a goal scoring machine under Roy was he? I think one season he scored 4?? Wilf in any side will weigh in with between 5-10 goals a season due to his natural ability and that was roughly his numbers every season with RH in charge. To try and suggest he flourished under Roy is to funny. The Wilf we saw on Saturday was the real Wilf. One we haven't seen for a long time. I think his post match comments sum up his frustrations on our style of football over the last few years. "one season he scored four", what are you talking about ?
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bicycle repair man 14 Sep 21 6.13pm | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
It's not about hating on Roy. I've clearly given him credit in my earlier post. It seems that the Roy lovers just refuse to admit that the 'football' under Roy was just awful. Roy lovers ?
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Chubskip 14 Sep 21 6.14pm | |
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When a team gets at them I can see Everton struggling a little. They will get found out on the counter attack and have yet to face a top team. I'm pleased for AT who always has a worldy in him but he will not be allowed the space as the season progresses and will fall foul of the Everton fans if he goes missing for them as he did for us last year. Still a cracking goal.
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