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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Aug 21 10.52am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Is Boris now heading for 8 kids by 3 different baby-mummies ?

Sounds like a conservative prime minister to you ? he should be a croydon hip hop star

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Matov Flag 09 Aug 21 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I can't see him budging for now, but at the same time don't really think he's ever had much love for the position; it was more just something he always expected would happen.

Who would people want to replace him with?


He is not going anywhere. If the polls were showing a consistent 10 point lead for Labour with Starmer considered a genuine leader in waiting then I would imagine the powers that be within the Tory party would be looking to remove him. But they are not. Starmer is even more unpopular and is a lame duck.

These politicians are all about legacy and Johnson will want to win at least one more general election. Suspect he might go soon after that.

However, if Johnson were to be hit by the metaphorical London bus so beloved of any kind of British political 'what if', then I reckon it would be down to Sunak and Raab. Patel is good but in my opinion, lacks the essential charisma to win the national votes. Plus not sure if she can be trusted in the role. Too many questions over her links to Israel.

Sunak would be the bookies favourite but never underestimate Rabb. He is in the FCO, has kept a low profile but given the s*** that I suspect is going to hit the fan in the next 24-36 months on the foreign policy front with regards to China, then he might well, depending on how it all goes, actually be the natural successor.

And never, ever, think Johnson is not a ruthless b******. He is and the current 'chaos' is probably a lot more manufactured by him than people realise. When you are playing the game at that level, almost nothing happens without it being thought out several moves ahead, especially when it comes to how you deal with those closest to you and creating mayhem is an age-old tactic by way of ensuring that those around you who might wield the old 'et-tu' blade are never allowed to get their feet truly comfortable under tables.

Edited by Matov (09 Aug 2021 1.48pm)

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 09 Aug 21 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


He is not going anywhere. If the polls were showing a consistent 10 point lead for Labour with Starmer considered a genuine leader in waiting then I would imagine the powers that be within the Tory party would be looking to remove him. But they are not. Starmer is even more unpopular and is a lame duck.

These politicians are all about legacy and Johnson will want to win at least one more general election. Suspect he might go soon after that.

However, if Johnson were to be hit by the metaphorical London bus so beloved of any kind of British political 'what if', then I reckon it would be down to Sunak and Raab. Patel is good but in my opinion, lacks the essential charisma to win the national votes. Plus not sure if she can be trusted in the role. Too many questions over her links to Israel.

Sunak would be the bookies favourite but never underestimate Rabb. He is in the FCO, has kept a low profile but given the s*** that I suspect is going to hit the fan in the next 24-36 months on the foreign policy front with regards to China, then he might well, depending on how it all goes, actually be the natural successor.

And never, ever, think Johnson is not a ruthless b******. He is and the current 'chaos' is probably a lot more manufactured by him than people realise. When you are playing the game at that level, almost nothing happens without it being thought out several moves ahead, especially when it comes to how you deal with those closest to you and creating mayhem is an age-old tactic by way of ensuring that those around you who might wield the old 'et-tu' blade are never allowed to get their feet truly comfortable under tables.

Edited by Matov (09 Aug 2021 1.48pm)

When it comes to China we should be asking who is our best bet for a wartime leader because China will invade Taiwan and when they do a full on conflict will follow.

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Aug 21 4.18pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Boris won't go until he's renovated a new place from donor's money.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 09 Aug 21 4.21pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

What makes you think China will invade Taiwan?

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

When it comes to China we should be asking who is our best bet for a wartime leader because China will invade Taiwan and when they do a full on conflict will follow.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 09 Aug 21 4.25pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

My criticism of him is that he seems to seek popularity at the expense of clear policies.

Its is a strange time when a Conservative government seems to be making policy on the hoof based on the latest polls.

Generally people respect leadership , it is not a requirement to agree with everything but you want a leader to lead.

In May Labour were 11 pts behind in voting intentions, now only 6pts

Edited by HKOwen (09 Aug 2021 4.27pm)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 21 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


There is a description of Boris being someone who desperately wanted to be Prime Minister and to have been Prime Minister but not to actually be Prime Minister.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 09 Aug 21 4.35pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


There is a description of Boris being someone who desperately wanted to be Prime Minister and to have been Prime Minister but not to actually be Prime Minister.

Ha, very good Ted!

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 09 Aug 21 4.41pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I always have a mental picture of him walking off that tennis court without paying.

And his car windscreen full of unpaid car parking tickets.

So British for voters to trust such a person.

 

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OldFella Flag London 09 Aug 21 4.46pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I always have a mental picture of him walking off that tennis court without paying.

And his car windscreen full of unpaid car parking tickets.

So British for voters to trust such a person.

Compared with your pin up boy Corbyn walking past rows of empty train seats to stage a photo op sitting on the floor. Oh, right.

 


Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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Matov Flag 09 Aug 21 5.33pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

What makes you think China will invade Taiwan?

I don't think China will. It will make a lot of noise but the reality is that the Wests naval strength, and there is a huge amount of it peacocking around the southern hemisphere at the moment, dwarfs what China can put out to sea.

I suspect the pressure will be primarily economic but backed up with a bloody big stick but it will potentially come close to flaring up on occasion and there will be a lot of noise. Hence why Raab might take centre stage far more.


 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 09 Aug 21 5.53pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

What makes you think China will invade Taiwan?

I could honestly list examples of why the CCP will invade Taiwan and be here all night doing it, plus this thread really isnt the place for that however one example is they are retrofitting their fleet of cargo ships into helicopter carrier/troop transports and actively training for beach landings, have a google of the cargo ship zhen hua 28, they have actually stolen the idea off the US who stole the idea off us as Britain did something similar in the Falklands but its a cheap and effective way of moving huge numbers of troops from China into Taiwan quickly.

China does not currently have enough assault ships to breach Taiwanese defences effectively do they are working on this by building a load of Type 75 assault ships that also act as carriers, you can learn more about the T75 here [Link]

We had a multinational flotilla of warships off the coast of Taiwan just the other day sending a clear message to the CCP that they wont take the island easily, the CCP responded by saying they have stocks of carrier sinking missiles aimed at the US led fleet

The last part sabre rattling no doubt however you cant ignore the fact they are actively equipping and training for an invasion, you can choose to take this seriously or not, the ccp are.


Edited by Ouzo Dan (09 Aug 2021 5.57pm)

 


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