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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Jul 21 8.15am
Originally posted by cryrst How can you double check the unknown which is what brexit was. I think you are disingenuous to assume people don't want to see this go for a much longer period. I have stated before that I doubt there are many leavers who wouldn't consider rejoining if conditions and terms allied to our status as a country. Mock that if you like but we are a highly respected and powerful force around the world, metaphorically. The battle is on but not at home; it's with the EU. The double check analogy was about holding a confirmatory referendum, given all the new information available since the first, to make sure Brexit was really what people wanted. Not just whether they were tired of the process. And I have stated many times that as the EU needs to reform, it ultimately will reform. It was therefore very much in our interests to stay inside and be the driver of that reform rather than merely observing. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 06 Jul 21 8.15am

Originally posted by cryrst

How can you double check the unknown which is what brexit was. I think you are disingenuous to assume people don't want to see this go for a much longer period. I have stated before that I doubt there are many leavers who wouldn't consider rejoining if conditions and terms allied to our status as a country.
Mock that if you like but we are a highly respected and powerful force around the world, metaphorically.
The battle is on but not at home; it's with the EU.

The double check analogy was about holding a confirmatory referendum, given all the new information available since the first, to make sure Brexit was really what people wanted. Not just whether they were tired of the process.

And I have stated many times that as the EU needs to reform, it ultimately will reform. It was therefore very much in our interests to stay inside and be the driver of that reform rather than merely observing.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Jul 21 8.21am
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle You lost. Move on Stop wasting your time and try to enjoy life. Peace and love to everyone This isn't a game of football. No-one "won or lost" as individuals. Our country's future direction has been changed and the break-up of the Union made more likely. Maybe you don't think that's important, and showing the finger to our neighbours and allies is. I disagree. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 06 Jul 21 8.21am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

You lost. Move on

Stop wasting your time and try to enjoy life.

Peace and love to everyone

This isn't a game of football. No-one "won or lost" as individuals. Our country's future direction has been changed and the break-up of the Union made more likely.

Maybe you don't think that's important, and showing the finger to our neighbours and allies is. I disagree.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Badger11 Beckenham 06 Jul 21 8.23am
Originally posted by cryrst How can you double check the unknown which is what brexit was. I think you are disingenuous to assume people don't want to see this go for a much longer period. I have stated before that I doubt there are many leavers who wouldn't consider rejoining if conditions and terms allied to our status as a country. Mock that if you like but we are a highly respected and powerful force around the world, metaphorically. The battle is on but not at home; it's with the EU. So if Remain had won we should have had a second referendum just to confirm that's what the voters intended? Edited by Badger11 (06 Jul 2021 9.09am) One more point
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Beckenham 06 Jul 21 8.23am

Originally posted by cryrst

How can you double check the unknown which is what brexit was. I think you are disingenuous to assume people don't want to see this go for a much longer period. I have stated before that I doubt there are many leavers who wouldn't consider rejoining if conditions and terms allied to our status as a country.
Mock that if you like but we are a highly respected and powerful force around the world, metaphorically.
The battle is on but not at home; it's with the EU.

So if Remain had won we should have had a second referendum just to confirm that's what the voters intended?

Edited by Badger11 (06 Jul 2021 9.09am)

One more point

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Jul 21 8.34am
A slightly puzzling outcome of Brexit (to me) , is that I thought the UK would become less enticing to illegal immigrants. The flow of dingy's from northern France would gradually reduce to nothing, as Europe would be the place immigrants wanted to settle. However, it seems that the UK has become even more of a desired destination for illegals, as dingy numbers increase., and continue to do so who'd have thought ? I disengage, I turn the page.
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A slightly puzzling outcome of Brexit (to me) , is that I thought the UK would become less enticing to illegal immigrants.
The flow of dingy's from northern France would gradually reduce to nothing, as Europe would be the place immigrants wanted to settle.

However, it seems that the UK has become even more of a desired destination for illegals, as dingy numbers increase., and continue to do so

who'd have thought ?

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Spiderman Horsham 06 Jul 21 8.56am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly A slightly puzzling outcome of Brexit (to me) , is that I thought the UK would become less enticing to illegal immigrants. The flow of dingy's from northern France would gradually reduce to nothing, as Europe would be the place immigrants wanted to settle. However, it seems that the UK has become even more of a desired destination for illegals, as dingy numbers increase., and continue to do so who'd have thought ? It was never going to decrease, in fact I predicted it would increase as the French authorities have little incentive to curb it ( we are still giving them £ms to assist them in doing so). Despite the country being full of flag waving, nationalist, racists ( apparently), it still appears to be a desirable destination. I wonder why?
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Horsham 06 Jul 21 8.56am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

However, it seems that the UK has become even more of a desired destination for illegals, as dingy numbers increase., and continue to do so

who'd have thought ?

It was never going to decrease, in fact I predicted it would increase as the French authorities have little incentive to curb it ( we are still giving them £ms to assist them in doing so).
Despite the country being full of flag waving, nationalist, racists ( apparently), it still appears to be a desirable destination. I wonder why?

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Eaglecoops CR3 06 Jul 21 9.09am
It was a poor programme. I lasted 10 minutes and that was enough. I see the same posters are back banging the remoaner drum. To be honest, leaving has done me no favours personally, however I’d still rather be out. I can see Europe having a very hard time of it over the next few years. I’d love to know where their recovery package monies are coming from and how the poorer countries propose to pay it back.
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CR3 06 Jul 21 9.09am

It was a poor programme. I lasted 10 minutes and that was enough.

I see the same posters are back banging the remoaner drum. To be honest, leaving has done me no favours personally, however I’d still rather be out. I can see Europe having a very hard time of it over the next few years.

I’d love to know where their recovery package monies are coming from and how the poorer countries propose to pay it back.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 06 Jul 21 10.23am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle And I have stated many times that as the EU needs to reform, it ultimately will reform. It was therefore very much in our interests to stay inside and be the driver of that reform rather than merely observing. Sorry to disagree. The EU is a dinosaur. Soon to go extinct. And good riddance. The eu is hated by Greeks, Catalans, Italians, the Dutch, French, polish, Hungarians, Danish...even countries outside the eu like Switzerland.... etc The eu is Rome circa 470 ad , Napoleon in 1815 , ibm computers in 1985, Charlton athletic , ..... your heyday is over. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Sorry to disagree. The EU is a dinosaur. Soon to go extinct. And good riddance.

The eu is hated by Greeks, Catalans, Italians, the Dutch, French, polish, Hungarians, Danish...even countries outside the eu like Switzerland.... etc

The eu is Rome circa 470 ad , Napoleon in 1815 , ibm computers in 1985, Charlton athletic , ..... your heyday is over.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Jul 21 11.32am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops It was a poor programme. I lasted 10 minutes and that was enough. I see the same posters are back banging the remoaner drum. To be honest, leaving has done me no favours personally, however I’d still rather be out. I can see Europe having a very hard time of it over the next few years. I’d love to know where their recovery package monies are coming from and how the poorer countries propose to pay it back. The next generation package was over-subscribed at its inception at Amsterdam. Funds should start to flow in the next week or two after ratification. Countries will have until 2058 to repay.
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Croydon 06 Jul 21 11.32am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

It was a poor programme. I lasted 10 minutes and that was enough.

I’d love to know where their recovery package monies are coming from and how the poorer countries propose to pay it back.

The next generation package was over-subscribed at its
inception at Amsterdam.

Funds should start to flow in the next week or two after ratification.

Countries will have until 2058 to repay.

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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Jul 21 11.48am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly A slightly puzzling outcome of Brexit (to me) , is that I thought the UK would become less enticing to illegal immigrants. The flow of dingy's from northern France would gradually reduce to nothing, as Europe would be the place immigrants wanted to settle. However, it seems that the UK has become even more of a desired destination for illegals, as dingy numbers increase., and continue to do so who'd have thought ? The record intake last year from France was only 8,000. In fact we could welcome more, as many more people are leaving the UK than coming here. It would be simpler, and safer, just to go and pick them up. France takes in many more people than we do.
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Croydon 06 Jul 21 11.48am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

However, it seems that the UK has become even more of a desired destination for illegals, as dingy numbers increase., and continue to do so

who'd have thought ?

The record intake last year from France was only 8,000.

In fact we could welcome more, as many more people are leaving the UK than coming here.

It would be simpler, and safer, just to go and pick them up.

France takes in many more people than we do.

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silvertop Portishead 06 Jul 21 11.55am
Originally posted by Matov These Remainer retards remind me of the kind of t*s who refuse to believe a romantic relationship is over. That their ex's have moved on. And that no matter how much the Ex might have new difficulties, none of makes them want to go back to how things were before. Life has moved on. What always makes me giggle is that if these R2's had focused their energy on shaping our future relationship with the EU once the referendum was done and dusted, then they would have probably got much of what they claim to have wanted. Us still in the single market, still in the customs unions and so on. Oh, and probably no Boris Johnon in number 10. But no. They knew better than that. Thought that they could somehow get the June 2016 result usurped. Utter fing morons of the highest order. Thick as s** divs who even to this day, cannot grasp basic mathematical facts such as 52% being higher than 48%. Let alone even trying to get their dumb little heads around the reality of the June 2016 result broken down into a constituency basis. So let them cheer on Panorama. After all, we all know what high standards of journalistic integrity they hold themselves to on that show. Maybe they could get the likes of Bashir and Sweeney to present a programme on the wisdom of us rejoining the EU? You do realise that if you just copy + paste the same post in response to even the slightest questioning of the effect of Brexit, that people will simply scan through your posts - pausing only to note the irony of a Brexiteer asserting low intelligence among Remainers - without reading them?
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silvertop

Portishead 06 Jul 21 11.55am

Originally posted by Matov

These Remainer retards remind me of the kind of t***s who refuse to believe a romantic relationship is over. That their ex's have moved on.

And that no matter how much the Ex might have new difficulties, none of makes them want to go back to how things were before. Life has moved on.

What always makes me giggle is that if these R2's had focused their energy on shaping our future relationship with the EU once the referendum was done and dusted, then they would have probably got much of what they claim to have wanted. Us still in the single market, still in the customs unions and so on. Oh, and probably no Boris Johnon in number 10.

But no. They knew better than that. Thought that they could somehow get the June 2016 result usurped.

Utter f***ing morons of the highest order. Thick as s*** divs who even to this day, cannot grasp basic mathematical facts such as 52% being higher than 48%. Let alone even trying to get their dumb little heads around the reality of the June 2016 result broken down into a constituency basis.

So let them cheer on Panorama. After all, we all know what high standards of journalistic integrity they hold themselves to on that show.

Maybe they could get the likes of Bashir and Sweeney to present a programme on the wisdom of us rejoining the EU?

You do realise that if you just copy + paste the same post in response to even the slightest questioning of the effect of Brexit, that people will simply scan through your posts - pausing only to note the irony of a Brexiteer asserting low intelligence among Remainers - without reading them?

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Spiderman Horsham 06 Jul 21 11.56am
Originally posted by steeleye20 The record intake last year from France was only 8,000. In fact we could welcome more, as many more people are leaving the UK than coming here. It would be simpler, and safer, just to go and pick them up. France takes in many more people than we do. It would be a start if we knew who they were! You really think more are leaving? Have you a link for this? How many do you think we should take? Record intake from France, Economic migrants still arriving daily at airports and other seaports as well. Yesterday a Central American national, speak only Spanish arrive and claimed asylum. He had travelled via Madrid, where he spoke to a border official, didn’t claim asylum there, as he didn’t want to stay in Spain as “it is full of South Americans”. UN Convention states you should claim asylum in the first safe country Edited by Spiderman (06 Jul 2021 11.58am) Edited by Spiderman (06 Jul 2021 12.01pm)
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Spiderman

Horsham 06 Jul 21 11.56am

Originally posted by steeleye20

The record intake last year from France was only 8,000.

In fact we could welcome more, as many more people are leaving the UK than coming here.

It would be simpler, and safer, just to go and pick them up.

France takes in many more people than we do.

It would be a start if we knew who they were! You really think more are leaving? Have you a link for this? How many do you think we should take?
Record intake from France, Economic migrants still arriving daily at airports and other seaports as well.

Yesterday a Central American national, speak only Spanish arrive and claimed asylum. He had travelled via Madrid, where he spoke to a border official, didn’t claim asylum there, as he didn’t want to stay in Spain as “it is full of South Americans”.
UN Convention states you should claim asylum in the first safe country

Edited by Spiderman (06 Jul 2021 11.58am)

Edited by Spiderman (06 Jul 2021 12.01pm)

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silvertop Portishead 06 Jul 21 12.04pm
BTW, there should not be a second referendum. Votes counted, people spoke. However, there should be a constant check on its effect on everyday lives. After all, if there are any negative impacts, should the government not be taking steps to address them? The consensus among those Brexiteers posting on this thread is that there should be no such review as this would smack of back door Remainerism (sorry about that word). That can't be right or good. And once again, we have posters doing the Remain/lefty thing which does not say much for the intelligence of those posters as those of socialist bent voted in their millions to leave.
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silvertop

Portishead 06 Jul 21 12.04pm

BTW, there should not be a second referendum. Votes counted, people spoke.

However, there should be a constant check on its effect on everyday lives. After all, if there are any negative impacts, should the government not be taking steps to address them?

The consensus among those Brexiteers posting on this thread is that there should be no such review as this would smack of back door Remainerism (sorry about that word). That can't be right or good.

And once again, we have posters doing the Remain/lefty thing which does not say much for the intelligence of those posters as those of socialist bent voted in their millions to leave.

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