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Matov 21 Jul 21 11.01am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr Originally posted by Putitout If it wasnt so serious, this would be fit only for comedy.. Edited by Putitout (21 Jul 2021 10.32am) Forget sitcoms, forget reality shows, forget opera, forget it all. And just enjoy politics. This s* is real and is beyond comprehension. The Twilight Zone meets Carry On meets the Exorcist. The only 'Game' that truly matters. Where it not only all happens but actually make history. I always harboured a suspicion that my interest in politics made me somehow sadder than most but I have come to the conclusion that I am just like every other common or garden punter out there. And rather than obsessing over whether Dot Cotton is going to pull a train for the market stallholders or if some ludicrous petulant brat of a footballer is going to swap one multi-million pound contract for another, I wonder if Micheal Gove is in cahoots with Cummings over this interview or if Starmer deliberately scuppered Labours election chances by way of climbing the greasy ladder. LOL. This is politics as the most f*ed up South American soap opera you can imagine. And then some. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Originally posted by Putitout

If it wasnt so serious, this would be fit only for comedy..

Edited by Putitout (21 Jul 2021 10.32am)

Forget sitcoms, forget reality shows, forget opera, forget it all. And just enjoy politics. This s*** is real and is beyond comprehension. The Twilight Zone meets Carry On meets the Exorcist. The only 'Game' that truly matters. Where it not only all happens but actually make history.

I always harboured a suspicion that my interest in politics made me somehow sadder than most but I have come to the conclusion that I am just like every other common or garden punter out there.

And rather than obsessing over whether Dot Cotton is going to pull a train for the market stallholders or if some ludicrous petulant brat of a footballer is going to swap one multi-million pound contract for another, I wonder if Micheal Gove is in cahoots with Cummings over this interview or if Starmer deliberately scuppered Labours election chances by way of climbing the greasy ladder.

LOL.

This is politics as the most f***ed up South American soap opera you can imagine. And then some.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 21 Jul 21 11.02am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr Cummings is getting plenty of airtime as a vicarious way for the MSM to kick Johnson. I am no Johnson fan but Cummings has produced nothing tangible apart from the Hancock message. It's all hearsay at the moment. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 21 Jul 21 11.02am

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Cummings is getting plenty of airtime as a vicarious way for the MSM to kick Johnson.

I am no Johnson fan but Cummings has produced nothing tangible apart from the Hancock message.

It's all hearsay at the moment.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Matov 21 Jul 21 11.08am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr Originally posted by HKOwen Cummings is getting plenty of airtime as a vicarious way for the MSM to kick Johnson. I am no Johnson fan but Cummings has produced nothing tangible apart from the Hancock message. It's all hearsay at the moment. I suspect everything Cummings is saying is what he believes to be the truth. And it is glorious. But ultimately, Cummings is not a politician. Personally, I think he has one of the greatest brains of the modern era but he is man playing a different game to that of the people he served in politics. Like a Chess Grandmaster trying to take on a top poker player. In a game of Texas hold'em. Cummings is clever but he should not be sitting at the same table when it comes to Johnson. Different rules, different expectations. If Cummings truly held any sway then he would have done for Johnson months ago. As it is, he does not. Tomorrows chip paper. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Originally posted by HKOwen

Cummings is getting plenty of airtime as a vicarious way for the MSM to kick Johnson.

I am no Johnson fan but Cummings has produced nothing tangible apart from the Hancock message.

It's all hearsay at the moment.

I suspect everything Cummings is saying is what he believes to be the truth. And it is glorious. But ultimately, Cummings is not a politician. Personally, I think he has one of the greatest brains of the modern era but he is man playing a different game to that of the people he served in politics.

Like a Chess Grandmaster trying to take on a top poker player. In a game of Texas hold'em. Cummings is clever but he should not be sitting at the same table when it comes to Johnson. Different rules, different expectations.

If Cummings truly held any sway then he would have done for Johnson months ago. As it is, he does not. Tomorrows chip paper.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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ex hibitionist Hastings 21 Jul 21 11.46am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr Originally posted by Matov I suspect everything Cummings is saying is what he believes to be the truth. And it is glorious. But ultimately, Cummings is not a politician. Personally, I think he has one of the greatest brains of the modern era but he is man playing a different game to that of the people he served in politics. Like a Chess Grandmaster trying to take on a top poker player. In a game of Texas hold'em. Cummings is clever but he should not be sitting at the same table when it comes to Johnson. Different rules, different expectations. If Cummings truly held any sway then he would have done for Johnson months ago. As it is, he does not. Tomorrows chip paper. interesting points you have made all along about Starmer, I do think it's more cock up than conspiracy with him though, he's just Tory-lite - Labour are scared to offend too many powerful groups, be they the media, business, bureaucratic management or the working classes! They lack any vision at a time when it is desperately needed. I thought there would be more under the surface, but it appears not - far too safe in his decision-making. And as for Cummings having 'one of the finest minds' - I'd say it takes more than narrow intellect to make a fine mind, no matter how clever we are we're all one small step from being an sshole - and Cummings' total lack of humility and self-awareness make him not only an sshole, but a dangerous one.
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Originally posted by Matov

If Cummings truly held any sway then he would have done for Johnson months ago. As it is, he does not. Tomorrows chip paper.

interesting points you have made all along about Starmer, I do think it's more cock up than conspiracy with him though, he's just Tory-lite - Labour are scared to offend too many powerful groups, be they the media, business, bureaucratic management or the working classes! They lack any vision at a time when it is desperately needed. I thought there would be more under the surface, but it appears not - far too safe in his decision-making. And as for Cummings having 'one of the finest minds' - I'd say it takes more than narrow intellect to make a fine mind, no matter how clever we are we're all one small step from being an *sshole - and Cummings' total lack of humility and self-awareness make him not only an *sshole, but a dangerous one.

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steeleye20 Croydon 21 Jul 21 11.56am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr The most revealing comments by Cummings are the revelation that brexit was a vehicle to change power in the UK to his leave mates. Leaving the EU was a cynical power game with the voters, as they often are, being taken for mugs.
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The most revealing comments by Cummings are the revelation that brexit was a vehicle to change power in the UK to his leave mates.

Leaving the EU was a cynical power game with the voters, as they often are, being taken for mugs.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 21 Jul 21 12.09pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr That would be " claim made by Cummings ", not a revelation. I haven't watched the whole thing so no view on if that's what he actually claimed. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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That would be " claim made by Cummings ", not a revelation.

I haven't watched the whole thing so no view on if that's what he actually claimed.

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A complete,lying plon#ker!!

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 21 Jul 21 12.59pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr Originally posted by steeleye20 The most revealing comments by Cummings are the revelation that brexit was a vehicle to change power in the UK to his leave mates. Leaving the EU was a cynical power game with the voters, as they often are, being taken for mugs. We cannot be sure about that as the expected outcome was a REMAIN vote. It was a badly contrived, rushed and incompetantly handled exercise. The people responsible should have been held to account not allowed to walk away leaving others to clear up their mess. Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by steeleye20

The most revealing comments by Cummings are the revelation that brexit was a vehicle to change power in the UK to his leave mates.

Leaving the EU was a cynical power game with the voters, as they often are, being taken for mugs.

We cannot be sure about that as the expected outcome was a REMAIN vote. It was a badly contrived, rushed and incompetantly handled exercise. The people responsible should have been held to account not allowed to walk away leaving others to clear up their mess.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 21 Jul 21 1.03pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr This comes to mind Attachment: Wormtongue.jpg (15.27Kb) I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.
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This comes to mind

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I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat
I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 22 Jul 21 12.56pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr Originally posted by The Dolphin As someone described him on the radio earlier today - a narcissistic megalomaniac! For those who hate Boris it is manna from heaven but in anyone's eyes this is a dangerous man - acting like a scorned ex-lover or employee. What he is saying should not be allowed - you just cannot have people spilling the beans on what goes on in Government - sorry - bang out of order. I am sure that a tone of stuff gets said behind closed doors and some of it will be outlandish and not for public ears and that is the way it should be. This will stifle democracy - the man is a turd of the highest order. Why on earth not? More transparency and accountability is exactly what's needed within Government. Caught up on the interview yesterday; he's an interesting bloke to listen to if nothing else - clearly got a personal mission to discredit Boris & Co. but I'd be very confident there's big portions of truth in what he's saying. He's certainly right that there should be a public enquiry into the Covid response as soon as possible, and if the claims he's made are verified, there has to be consequences. I've no hope this will happen, but it should. Nice of the BBC to finally question some parts of the Vote Leave campaign - only 5 years too late.
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Originally posted by The Dolphin

As someone described him on the radio earlier today - a narcissistic megalomaniac!
For those who hate Boris it is manna from heaven but in anyone's eyes this is a dangerous man - acting like a scorned ex-lover or employee.
What he is saying should not be allowed - you just cannot have people spilling the beans on what goes on in Government - sorry - bang out of order.
I am sure that a tone of stuff gets said behind closed doors and some of it will be outlandish and not for public ears and that is the way it should be.
This will stifle democracy - the man is a turd of the highest order.

Why on earth not? More transparency and accountability is exactly what's needed within Government.

Caught up on the interview yesterday; he's an interesting bloke to listen to if nothing else - clearly got a personal mission to discredit Boris & Co. but I'd be very confident there's big portions of truth in what he's saying.

He's certainly right that there should be a public enquiry into the Covid response as soon as possible, and if the claims he's made are verified, there has to be consequences. I've no hope this will happen, but it should.

Nice of the BBC to finally question some parts of the Vote Leave campaign - only 5 years too late.

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Stirlingsays 22 Jul 21 1.37pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr Peter Hitchens was right about the Tory party. Then again, at least it isn't Kneel Starmer. Yet.....nothing would surprise me. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2021 1.38pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Peter Hitchens was right about the Tory party.

Then again, at least it isn't Kneel Starmer.

Yet.....nothing would surprise me.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2021 1.38pm)

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Fatherken 22 Jul 21 2.13pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Dominic Cummings' by kenbarr To say that people who thought Brexit was a good idea had a screw loose is rubbish . The last general election was a second Brexit referendum . Labour could not see this and left there supporters behind and therefore they did not vote for them . As for Cummings , he is acting like a spoilt child who did not get his own way . By the way does he has a book due out ?
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To say that people who thought Brexit was a good idea had a screw loose is rubbish .
The last general election was a second Brexit referendum .
Labour could not see this and left there supporters behind and therefore they did not vote for them .
As for Cummings , he is acting like a spoilt child who did not get his own way .
By the way does he has a book due out ?

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