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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Jul 21 7.46pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

We are paying the price a state bailout of over 500 millions to keep Nissan in the UK.

If we had stayed in, this would not have been necessary, and we would have access to the 750 billion EU recovery fund.


That might be true Steeleye but E.U bad remember, E.u bad!


 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Jul 21 7.49pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Hang on, just so I understand this.

The government is investing gazillions of tax payers money to encourage Nissan to build in Sunderland. The COO of Nissan stated on the record this morning that Nissan would not have stayed but for this public handout. The taxpayers' money is so invested in order to: (1) bribe "Red Wall" voters; and (2) justify Brexit given Nissan was a rallying cry from Remainers.

And the OP thinks this somehow supports the vote to Leave.

Really?


Don"t let the facts muddle the post Silver!

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Jul 21 7.53pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

I think you'll find that the "Remain Retards" are only commenting on an idiotic claim by the OP (presumably having read it in the Express) that Nissan's decision vindicates Leave, even though it is just a manifestation of government bung.

Thus, the irony of calling Remainers "retarded" is not lost.

So hmg have given Joe public billions during the pandemic and now help with the Nissan with half of 1 billion to get it going and its an issue. Thousands of jobs both directly and indirectly will be made with this and the tax take on wages and business alone will be huge. What's your take on the plus 10000 being investigated for fraud and claiming furlough and grants. This number will rise and possibly total what hmg gave to Nissan at least. Once that's clawed back Nissan is a freebie. Happy days.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Jul 21 7.54pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


Don"t let the facts muddle the post Silver!

Twice cp. Really mate. You are coming across as a desperate lefty.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Jul 21 8.05pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Twice cp. Really mate. You are coming across as a desperate lefty.

I thank you!

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 21 8.16pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

They should have come to Ireland. We would have paid for the factory, the workforce and made sure that Nissan paid no tax anywhere in the world. Happy days.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Jul 21 8.25pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They should have come to Ireland. We would have paid for the factory, the workforce and made sure that Nissan paid no tax anywhere in the world. Happy days.

Thats the Sunderland deal AS. And richie today has told the City of London to cosy up to China in the future as they have burned their bridges with the E,U, who would have thought?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 21 8.37pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Thats the Sunderland deal AS. And richie today has told the City of London to cosy up to China in the future as they have burned their bridges with the E,U, who would have thought?

I thought China already owns loads of London, particularly Canary Wharf. Why no police on Canary Wharf?
My point is Ireland have let Apple, Google and Microsoft pay no tax at all. We really could do with Nissan too. I'm tempted to make myself a foreign company and avoid my 40 per cent tax. Whilst Apple had their case paid for by my tax money. I'm sure they needed it.
France are always paying for industry, usually out of German money. The UK is bound to do the same, or not be competitive. Nissan are doing what's best for them. That's how business works. Meanwhile their workers can get their 7.50 an hour and we're all happy. What's not to like?

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 01 Jul 21 8.54pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So hmg have given Joe public billions during the pandemic and now help with the Nissan with half of 1 billion to get it going and its an issue. Thousands of jobs both directly and indirectly will be made with this and the tax take on wages and business alone will be huge. What's your take on the plus 10000 being investigated for fraud and claiming furlough and grants. This number will rise and possibly total what hmg gave to Nissan at least. Once that's clawed back Nissan is a freebie. Happy days.

Not bad pointsso far as a general comment on public investment but not directly to point on OP who claimed this as a success for Brexit

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Jul 21 9.09pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I think picking on individual cases for success or failure for Brexit probably doesn't make sense at the moment.

I don't know if this is a good deal for the UK or if Nissan has played us. The only point I would make is that this deal may not have happened under EU rules.

At least we now have that flexibility what the politicians do with it is another matter.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Jul 21 9.43pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Not bad pointsso far as a general comment on public investment but not directly to point on OP who claimed this as a success for Brexit

It may not have passed EU rules and 1000s would still be unemployed in the future. Covid has been horrendous for the world's employment. Why is investing in the British public so wrong?
Sunderland got a 600m grant from the EU a few years ago. But it was only offsetting our contribution so this is basically that money straight in the pockets of the mackems. But without getting the begging bowl to brussels. If all of our 13 odd billion former contribution is used for jobs and investment directly on our citizens what's the difference.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 01 Jul 21 10.02pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Whilst baiting Remain Retards will never lose a certain charm, I do think it is time we all perhaps decided to move on now. What amazes me is how little I see people demanding we Rejoin. A perfectly legitimate political ambition but instead, and I confess I am as guilty as anybody, we are still rehashing the old battles of 2016 which in political history, especially after the events of the last 18 or so months, are literally ancient history.


Remain lost and in their failure to accept that 52 is bigger than 48, gifted Johnson with an 80 seat majority. The political equivalent of people who have pissed themselves after only an hour or so in the pub but rather than just slinking off home to change, decide to carry on until they end up s***ting themselves as well in the middle of the nightclub dance floor. And still insisting they are smarter than the rest of us.

Let's leave them to wallow in their misery. It's only truly fun when you can have a modicum of respect for them and that ship truly sailed in December 2019.

I’m sure you’ve made the same post 100+ times by now - are you not bored of writing it out?

 

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