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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 May 21 12.16pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 There is still about 25 billions being paid to the EU in the next few yeas (ONBR). Plus various other minor odds and sods. The EU grants, benefits etc. which were considerable, have been lost and it is up to the UK to fund it all or make it disappear more likely. There is nothing to suggest that the UK would make anything other than pocket money savings. There is some truth in this. However, currently Britain is in growth and the rest of the EU in recession. This totally dwarfs the amounts you are discussing. As said above, there is a lot of investment in the UK and also in the US. The most striking examples are the stock, bond and currency markets which are all at normal levels despite Covid. The main current reason seems to be vaccinations. The EU needs to actually do something but unfortunately the talking heads got their own vaccinations and then stuck a finger up at their 'citizens' whilst claiming a record high of expenses. Given a choice, half of Europe would leave the EU. Rest assured though, they won't get the choice. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 May 21 12.16pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

There is still about 25 billions being paid to the EU in the next few yeas (ONBR).

Plus various other minor odds and sods.

The EU grants, benefits etc. which were considerable, have been lost and it is up to the UK to fund it all or make it disappear more likely.

There is nothing to suggest that the UK would make anything other than pocket money savings.

There is some truth in this. However, currently Britain is in growth and the rest of the EU in recession. This totally dwarfs the amounts you are discussing. As said above, there is a lot of investment in the UK and also in the US. The most striking examples are the stock, bond and currency markets which are all at normal levels despite Covid.
The main current reason seems to be vaccinations. The EU needs to actually do something but unfortunately the talking heads got their own vaccinations and then stuck a finger up at their 'citizens' whilst claiming a record high of expenses. Given a choice, half of Europe would leave the EU. Rest assured though, they won't get the choice.

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Orange1290 03 May 21 12.27pm
Originally posted by beak One barometer of wether leaving the E.U.was right is the London Stock Exchange, it is flying upwards since leaving, another is the vaccine success story. Totally wrong, the FTSE lagged behind in 2020 and still hasn't made up it's losses when compared to other major European bourses: 2020 2021 difference FTSE 100 -15% +16% +1% DAX +2% +10% +8% CAC -7% +12% +5% So, using your analogy, leaving the EU was wrong. Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.28pm) Pro China, EU & Palestine
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03 May 21 12.27pm

Originally posted by beak

One barometer of wether leaving the E.U.was right is the London Stock Exchange, it is flying upwards since leaving, another is the vaccine success story.

Totally wrong, the FTSE lagged behind in 2020 and still hasn't made up it's losses when compared to other major European bourses:

2020 2021 difference
FTSE 100 -15% +16% +1%
DAX +2% +10% +8%
CAC -7% +12% +5%

So, using your analogy, leaving the EU was wrong.

Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.28pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 03 May 21 12.34pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That's the problem though, isn't it? They exist in a parallel universe in which the sun is always going to rise, tomorrow. The other problem is that tomorrow never comes. But when is the sky going to fall in? Why insist on being so patronising
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Horsham 03 May 21 12.34pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's the problem though, isn't it?

They exist in a parallel universe in which the sun is always going to rise, tomorrow.

The other problem is that tomorrow never comes.

But when is the sky going to fall in? Why insist on being so patronising

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Spiderman Horsham 03 May 21 12.36pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 Totally wrong, the FTSE lagged behind in 2020 and still hasn't made up it's losses when compared to other major European bourses: 2020 2021 difference FTSE 100 -15% +16% +1% DAX +2% +10% +8% CAC -7% +12% +5% So, using your analogy, leaving the EU was wrong. Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.28pm) Well we have left so, people will have to lump it. PM Wissie you can become a member of his rejoining party
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Horsham 03 May 21 12.36pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

Totally wrong, the FTSE lagged behind in 2020 and still hasn't made up it's losses when compared to other major European bourses:

2020 2021 difference
FTSE 100 -15% +16% +1%
DAX +2% +10% +8%
CAC -7% +12% +5%

So, using your analogy, leaving the EU was wrong.

Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.28pm)

Well we have left so, people will have to lump it. PM Wissie you can become a member of his rejoining party

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Orange1290 03 May 21 12.44pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC There is some truth in this. However, currently Britain is in growth and the rest of the EU in recession. This totally dwarfs the amounts you are discussing. As said above, there is a lot of investment in the UK and also in the US. The most striking examples are the stock, bond and currency markets which are all at normal levels despite Covid. The main current reason seems to be vaccinations. The EU needs to actually do something but unfortunately the talking heads got their own vaccinations and then stuck a finger up at their 'citizens' whilst claiming a record high of expenses. Given a choice, half of Europe would leave the EU. Rest assured though, they won't get the choice. The UK was the worst performing G7 member in 2020, worse than Germany, France or Italy. The rest is all baseless supposition and wishful thinking. Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.44pm) Pro China, EU & Palestine
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03 May 21 12.44pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

The UK was the worst performing G7 member in 2020, worse than Germany, France or Italy. The rest is all baseless supposition and wishful thinking.

Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.44pm)

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Orange1290 03 May 21 12.45pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Well we have left so, people will have to lump it. PM Wissie you can become a member of his rejoining party Facts seem to pass you by on a regular basis. Best not to comment when you're out of your depth me thinks. Pro China, EU & Palestine
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03 May 21 12.45pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Well we have left so, people will have to lump it. PM Wissie you can become a member of his rejoining party

Facts seem to pass you by on a regular basis. Best not to comment when you're out of your depth me thinks.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 May 21 12.51pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 The UK was the worst performing G7 member in 2020, worse than Germany, France or Italy. The rest is all baseless supposition and wishful thinking. Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.44pm) And now they are much better performing but don't let that get in the way of your UK bashing, or is it just England bashing? Try going outside from under your bridge, oh I forgot, if you're in the EU you can't. I've no time for you anyway, you're not a Palace fan and you're on these boards. You're probably Brighton. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 May 21 12.51pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

The UK was the worst performing G7 member in 2020, worse than Germany, France or Italy. The rest is all baseless supposition and wishful thinking.

Edited by Orange1290 (03 May 2021 12.44pm)

And now they are much better performing but don't let that get in the way of your UK bashing, or is it just England bashing? Try going outside from under your bridge, oh I forgot, if you're in the EU you can't. I've no time for you anyway, you're not a Palace fan and you're on these boards. You're probably Brighton.

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Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 21 12.54pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That's just a very tedious excuse used by Brexiteers to try to justify the deception after it was exposed. There is no doubt at all that the claim was simply a marketing tool designed by Cummings to deceive the voters. Any politician with an ounce of integrity renounced it at the time. Remainers made a big fuss about where is the £350m so Mrs May gave them it and more. Was that politics of course but it still happened so please don't deny the NHS never got it. One more point
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Beckenham 03 May 21 12.54pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's just a very tedious excuse used by Brexiteers to try to justify the deception after it was exposed.

There is no doubt at all that the claim was simply a marketing tool designed by Cummings to deceive the voters. Any politician with an ounce of integrity renounced it at the time.

Remainers made a big fuss about where is the £350m so Mrs May gave them it and more. Was that politics of course but it still happened so please don't deny the NHS never got it.

One more point

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Orange1290 03 May 21 1.00pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC And now they are much better performing but don't let that get in the way of your UK bashing, or is it just England bashing? Try going outside from under your bridge, oh I forgot, if you're in the EU you can't. I've no time for you anyway, you're not a Palace fan and you're on these boards. You're probably Brighton. UK bashing? Don't let facts get in the way of reality otherwise you'll get a big shock. Haha, Brighton? I was born and bred in Norbury. Lived in lots of other countries since, both Europe and beyond, so it gives me a very good perspective looking in with experience rather than looking out with none. Still, keep thinking that someone's 'football' team is the deciding factor when discussing international finance and economics. Utterly hilarious but not very surprised. Pro China, EU & Palestine
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03 May 21 1.00pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

UK bashing? Don't let facts get in the way of reality otherwise you'll get a big shock. Haha, Brighton? I was born and bred in Norbury. Lived in lots of other countries since, both Europe and beyond, so it gives me a very good perspective looking in with experience rather than looking out with none. Still, keep thinking that someone's 'football' team is the deciding factor when discussing international finance and economics. Utterly hilarious but not very surprised.

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Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 21 1.01pm
The fall out from Brexit and COVID is till unclear and I suspect may not be clear for another couple of years. The impact of COVID on the economy will I think be enormous already most blue chip companies have told their staff that partly working from home will now be the new normal. AT Barclay's Canary Wharf they are planning office space for a quarter of their staff. The City of London has announced plans to convert thousands of office space into apartments and the high street is rapidly disappearing. Apparently there are many vacancies in the hospitality sector as EU citizens went home. At the same time thousands of kids are about to leave school and may or may not take those jobs. All of the above would have happened without Brexit I still feel that in the long run we will be better off but that is an opinion not a fact. One more point
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Beckenham 03 May 21 1.01pm

The fall out from Brexit and COVID is till unclear and I suspect may not be clear for another couple of years.

The impact of COVID on the economy will I think be enormous already most blue chip companies have told their staff that partly working from home will now be the new normal. AT Barclay's Canary Wharf they are planning office space for a quarter of their staff.

The City of London has announced plans to convert thousands of office space into apartments and the high street is rapidly disappearing.

Apparently there are many vacancies in the hospitality sector as EU citizens went home. At the same time thousands of kids are about to leave school and may or may not take those jobs.

All of the above would have happened without Brexit I still feel that in the long run we will be better off but that is an opinion not a fact.

One more point

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 May 21 1.58pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 UK bashing? Don't let facts get in the way of reality otherwise you'll get a big shock. Haha, Brighton? I was born and bred in Norbury. Lived in lots of other countries since, both Europe and beyond, so it gives me a very good perspective looking in with experience rather than looking out with none. Still, keep thinking that someone's 'football' team is the deciding factor when discussing international finance and economics. Utterly hilarious but not very surprised. PUSSAY PATROL ALERT !! Pro USA & Israel
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