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 steeleye20  Croydon 31 Mar 21 11.19am |
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Murder one. The video evidence clearly shows it. Pre-meditation I think so but difficult to prove. He will get off lightly compared to the man he squeezed the life out of.
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| Mapletree Croydon 31 Mar 21 12.48pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Probably depends upon the severity of the charge. Nope. US criminal law innit. Majority verdicts used to be possible only in Louisiana or Oregon. A matter of much current debate in the US. Unanimity is now required in all states In England, by contrast, the position remains that non-unanimous majority verdicts are permitted if the jury is deadlocked 11-1 or 10-2. Edited by Mapletree (31 Mar 2021 12.51pm)
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| Stirlingsays 31 Mar 21 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Nope. US criminal law innit. Majority verdicts used to be possible only in Louisiana or Oregon. A matter of much current debate in the US. Unanimity is now required in all states In England, by contrast, the position remains that non-unanimous majority verdicts are permitted if the jury is deadlocked 11-1 or 10-2. Edited by Mapletree (31 Mar 2021 12.51pm) Cheers, useful to know. Now I know which states to avoid when committing difficult to prove murders.
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Teddy Eagle  31 Mar 21 12.58pm |
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 31 Mar 21 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Murder one. The video evidence clearly shows it. Pre-meditation I think so but difficult to prove. He will get off lightly compared to the man he squeezed the life out of. Saw on sky one of the 3 witnesses on scene, a firefighter and trained medic, wanted to give medical assistance to George as she could see he needed it but the poooooooliceman wouldn"t let her near him,doesn"t look great for the feds having a trained firefighter letting them know he needs medical assistance, a great witness.
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 AERO 31 Mar 21 2.51pm |
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I don't understand why he is allowed bail ? Turns up suited and looks like an eterney?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 21 3.10pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Sometimes wissy you show naivety but I beleive its for a reaction and you know fully what you write. Edited by cryrst (31 Mar 2021 10.12am) There is nothing naive involved in arguing for a fair trial in which only the evidence matters. Don't you agree with that? What would be naive is expecting that to happen in this case but as I don't, I am not.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 21 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, Whites have died during police restraints, one of which I've seen on video and not only didn't you see the massive media outcry you don't get riots. You also don't see murder convictions. The racial dynamic is a political device used by the progressives against the right and you're correct. If the guy dying is white they don't care about it. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2021 11.07am) Context matters. The truth matters. Let the court decide on the evidence and let the debate continue elsewhere over whether the reaction to the death was proportionate to its context. That Floyd's death sparked such a worldwide reaction has to mean something other than just the right getting upset over an idea that "progressives" are playing politics. Anger of that sort is not generated simply by political games. It is real. That it was then exploited does nothing to minimise that strength of feeling. Of course any death in custody is a tragedy but not every death in custody is equally newsworthy. It does depend on context, whether you like it or not. The context has nothing to do with the victim's skin colour, although I doubt very much whether you will understand why. It depends upon their strata in society and whether their treatment was impacted by it. That's important. Their skin colour is not.
Edited by Wisbech Eagle (31 Mar 2021 3.33pm)
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| Maine Eagle USA 01 Apr 21 11.21pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Murder one. The video evidence clearly shows it. Pre-meditation I think so but difficult to prove. He will get off lightly compared to the man he squeezed the life out of. It’s going to be hard to prove he intended to kill the bloke. He left the knee on after he was clearly unconscious, which is pretty hard to defend but they may struggle to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he tried to intentionally kill him. That is unless they can unearth some Stirling Says esque views on racial equality, on some website somewhere, that Chauvin authored. He will go down for manslaughter.
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 21 8.58am |
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Hopefully everyone will agree that this killing by Police is probably justified
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 21 9.00am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
It’s going to be hard to prove he intended to kill the bloke. He left the knee on after he was clearly unconscious, which is pretty hard to defend but they may struggle to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he tried to intentionally kill him. That is unless they can unearth some Stirling Says esque views on racial equality, on some website somewhere, that Chauvin authored. He will go down for manslaughter. I agree with you that only manslaughter seems probable. Unfortunately I do not see that will appease many, baton down the hatches! Edited by Spiderman (03 Apr 2021 9.05am) Edited by Spiderman (03 Apr 2021 9.09am)
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cryrst  The garden of England 03 Apr 21 9.23am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Hopefully everyone will agree that this killing by Police is probably justified Blm will let you know soon enough.
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