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Foxy82 14 Jan 21 12.52pm | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
In my experience you have to be very careful with 'counselling' - and private shrinks tend to be better than NHS ones (who mainly act as an arm of the DSS to try and make you ready for work rather than emotionally stable with a proper hold on reality). My parents passed away some years ago and then there was the hideous property grab when you find out what your brothers and sisters are really like - i was not in a good way. I was advised to see someone from 'Stress Minus' - a lovely, wise German lady called Patricia. Her company was called 'Stress-Minus' and three sessions from her to encourage me to engage with positive active things really helped, a real turning point. Might be worth giving it a search when the doldrums occur Forgot to add, sorry to hear about the stress you went through after your parents passed. It truly does bring out the worst in people, particularly harrowing when it's your nearest and dearest! I've seen happen a few times recently with colleagues and friends, not been through it personally thankfully.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Jan 21 12.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
unrealistic expectations does factor in. every morning i expect to wake up in a post-nuclear-war barren wasteland. With gangs of people fighting over a crumb of bread. 700 men chasing after the one pretty girl in town. And to step on landmines while a vietnam-style wrecking ball swings out of the trees to smash my head in. and so, i am always happy. But i do find visits to Thornton Heath to be a challenge. Edited by PalazioVecchio (14 Jan 2021 1.17pm)
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samprior Hamburg 14 Jan 21 1.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Foxy82
I have been struggling these past couple of years. Covid certainly hasn't helped the situation! It doesn't help when those that love you don't understand why one day you can happy as Larry and the next, a right grumpy git, but you simply cannot explain why. I have found that CBD helps a lot when it gets particularly stressful, if anything it's helped me not care so much about things I shouldn't really care so much about. It's definitely an issue for men and I still feel that help really isn't there as much when we need it. I did speak to 'Mind' last year after a referral from my GP but after an initial consultation and a recommendation that I talked with one of their shrinks, I never heard another word from them, which really didn't help me at the time. I should really call them again, as I've had some very dark times indeed over the past year, which I've mostly kept to myself, not wanting to worry those closest too me, but again, it seems to be a macho male thing (not calling myself macho but it seems to be something ingrained in us men where we don't seek help!) Glad you found something in the CBD which helps. The macho side of things you talk about (not wanting to worry others, bottle up etc) is very understandable and I'm sure it is a large contributor to a lot of people's problems. For me it's the true essence of the term toxic masculinity which has since been misused a lot. If it's of any use since the start of last year I've been doing this breathing exercise by Wim Hof 2/3 times a week after doing a workout. I can't say that I started it because of any mental health issues but it certainly helped me to keep a level head over the strange last year. Also in the comments section of the video it's full up with people attesting to how much it's helped them through some difficult times. So maybe there could be something to it. It certainly felt strange doing it at first and I'm sure it's not everybody's cup of tea but it may be worth a go. I tried it just out of curiosity and still doing it a year later. It's been growing in popularity and there's a tonne of documentaries about him (some good, some bad) and he's certainly a colourful character who's come through his fair share of challenges. Hope it might be helpful. And this thread appearing on the mighty masculine HOL (sorry female members ) certainly shows that it is ok to talk Edited by samprior (14 Jan 2021 1.02pm)
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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 14 Jan 21 1.01pm | |
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Had a very bad time in the 90s. A simple step, but I found great assistance was a very mellow old chap, private life coach/Hypnotherapist. Otherwise I find exercise is a massive plus for clearing the head & making you feel better about yourself.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jan 21 1.17pm | |
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Humans evolved to work their bodies outside. Technology has had its good and bad sides. Humans didn’t evolve to sit at desks for 7-10+ days a week and under pressure from a boss. All obvious stuff but many are oblivious to it.
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Foxy82 14 Jan 21 1.25pm | |
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Originally posted by samprior
Glad you found something in the CBD which helps. The macho side of things you talk about (not wanting to worry others, bottle up etc) is very understandable and I'm sure it is a large contributor to a lot of people's problems. For me it's the true essence of the term toxic masculinity which has since been misused a lot. If it's of any use since the start of last year I've been doing this breathing exercise by Wim Hof 2/3 times a week after doing a workout. I can't say that I started it because of any mental health issues but it certainly helped me to keep a level head over the strange last year. Also in the comments section of the video it's full up with people attesting to how much it's helped them through some difficult times. So maybe there could be something to it. It certainly felt strange doing it at first and I'm sure it's not everybody's cup of tea but it may be worth a go. I tried it just out of curiosity and still doing it a year later. It's been growing in popularity and there's a tonne of documentaries about him (some good, some bad) and he's certainly a colourful character who's come through his fair share of challenges. Hope it might be helpful. And this thread appearing on the mighty masculine HOL (sorry female members ) certainly shows that it is ok to talk Edited by samprior (14 Jan 2021 1.02pm) I sometimes do breathing exercises (when I remember to). I've just tried the video in that link and I can see that being very beneficial, although I definitely can't hold my breath for 1.5 minutes! I really appreciate all the suggestions on here, so kudos to the OP for starting this thread
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jan 21 1.29pm | |
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Mental health issues are the real pandemic. It's only going to get worse for men too - without going into it. But really today, women are holding most of the cards.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Jan 21 1.49pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Mental health issues are the real pandemic. It's only going to get worse for men too - without going into it. But really today, women are holding most of the cards. you flood Western Europe with single young men and you rig the dating game. Added to vicious Divorce Courts and a generous Social Welfare for single mums.....its totally depressing for the average man - he has almost become redundant in the home-life. Women's participation in the workplace has made house prices sky-rocket. there has never before been so many childless men, single men, bankrupt men, homeless men, or divorced men. Even footballers are feeling the pinch as the vast majority of them get divorced after the playing career ends. Should have gone MGTOW.
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Stirlingsays 14 Jan 21 1.56pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
you flood Western Europe with single young men and you rig the dating game. Added to vicious Divorce Courts and a generous Social Welfare for single mums.....its totally depressing for the average man - he has almost become redundant in the home-life. Women's participation in the workplace has made house prices sky-rocket. there has never before been so many childless men, single men, bankrupt men, homeless men, or divorced men. Even footballers are feeling the pinch as the vast majority of them get divorced after the playing career ends. Should have gone MGTOW.
There are many great women out there, it's about luck, what you can attract/get and judgement. However I completely agree with you. Neither the system or the elites that created it or their middle class idealogs running it give a damn about the working class male, especially the white one.
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samprior Hamburg 14 Jan 21 2.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Foxy82
I sometimes do breathing exercises (when I remember to). I've just tried the video in that link and I can see that being very beneficial, although I definitely can't hold my breath for 1.5 minutes! I really appreciate all the suggestions on here, so kudos to the OP for starting this thread Ha ye it's mad isn't it but I was surprised how quickly it started to get easier with the breath hold. Glad it could be of some use though. And yep likewise with the kudos for the OP. Have a good afternoon fella... until Palace kick off at least
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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 14 Jan 21 6.41pm | |
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Society, the media, social media all have a part to play with mental health, in my own experience anyway. Lockdown itself being particularly grim, being a prisoner in your own home, but still expected to work, not really able to exercise as you once we're, too much screen time, not being able to see friends and loved ones and having zero freedom of movement. I could go on... I wouldn't say necessarily say I'm depressed or even struggling, but as you grow older as a man, you do have an inner voice reminding you that you're pathetic, if you haven't met certain, arbitrary milestones in life, say in comparison to your parent's generation. Edited by madcap_v2 (14 Jan 2021 7.06pm)
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Stirlingsays 14 Jan 21 6.51pm | |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Society, the media, social media all have a part to play with mental health, in my own experience anyway. Lockdown itself being particularly grim, being a prisoner in your own home, but still expected to work, not really able to exercise as you once we're, too much screen time, not being able to see friends and loved ones and having zero freedom of movement. I could go on... I wouldn't say necessarily say I'm depressed or even struggling, but as you grow older as a man, you do have an inner voice reminding you that you're pathetic, if you haven't met certain, arbitrary milestones in live, say in comparison to your parent's generation. Your parent's generation had a very different environment....and plenty were depressed then as now. I'd say be your own worst critic but also your biggest fan. Make an honest appraisal of yourself and what you think is realistically possible for you to achieve in life. Then live by your own standards and expectations based upon that. Treat doing what's best for yourself (obviously without looking to hurt others) as a job. Don't let life just be a series of events that happens to you, try to shape them. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 6.53pm)
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