This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Croydon council files for bankruptcy
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
 Painter  Croydon 11 Nov 20 9.01pm |
  |
|---|---|
|
Labour have a rich history in financial mismanagement, whilst in power, its nothing to do with Covid. They have been going down the plughole for years.
|
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Nov 20 9.03pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
Looking around me in Croydon it has been locked down for over 6 months more or less. The council has done well to maintain essential services. But whatever political persuasion they are, they will not be collecting revenue anything like they need. I think this must be widespread. There is no alternative to the government making good. And it is a type of poetic justice as they have been over-loading their responsibilities onto councils in the name of their flawed austerity policies.
Is there a vaccine for stupidity? I'd get in the queue if I were you. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Nov 2020 9.03pm)
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
jeeagles  11 Nov 20 9.06pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
Looking around me in Croydon it has been locked down for over 6 months more or less. The council has done well to maintain essential services. But whatever political persuasion they are, they will not be collecting revenue anything like they need. I think this must be widespread. There is no alternative to the government making good. And it is a type of poetic justice as they have been over-loading their responsibilities onto councils in the name of their flawed austerity policies. How have we benefitted? Not at all over 2 trillions in debt. They waisted all that money searching for a vacine when they should have been planting magic money trees. Britain under Labour - broke Who in there right mind wasted £50m on an out of town shopping centre in 2018.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Nov 20 9.06pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Painter
Labour have a rich history in financial mismanagement, whilst in power, its nothing to do with Covid. They have been going down the plughole for years. Firstly these corrupt scumbags shouldn't ever be allowed to hold Public office again & secondly there should be a audit as to where the money has gone exactly?
Pro USA & Israel |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 11 Nov 20 9.23pm |
|
|---|---|
|
For many years, there have been too many clowns in the circus we call the public sector. They should be held to account for their acts of gross financial mismanagement not allowed to run away with gold plated pensions.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mapletree Croydon 11 Nov 20 9.33pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Jimenez
Firstly these corrupt scumbags shouldn't ever be allowed to hold Public office again & secondly there should be a audit as to where the money has gone exactly? Not often I agree with you Jim Years ago I worked with every Local Authority in England. They were incredibly mixed in their abilities. The worst by far were the Authorities that had been under the same party leadership for prolonged periods. Whilst sometimes I have no choice, I am always extremely cautious about hiring people from Local Authorities. They tend to hire weak people and then not manage underperformance properly. Sorry to anyone reading this that works for a Council, you are obviously the exception.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Nov 20 10.19pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Mapletree
Not often I agree with you Jim Years ago I worked with every Local Authority in England. They were incredibly mixed in their abilities. The worst by far were the Authorities that had been under the same party leadership for prolonged periods. Whilst sometimes I have no choice, I am always extremely cautious about hiring people from Local Authorities. They tend to hire weak people and then not manage underperformance properly. Sorry to anyone reading this that works for a Council, you are obviously the exception. On this, you are 100% correct.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
BarEagle  Monmouth 11 Nov 20 10.33pm |
|
|---|---|
|
My dealings with local authorities is extremely poor. The commercial realities are combated with jealousy and over zealous attitudes. They forget that it is private individuals and entrepreneurs who pay their salaries. Policies, procedures, red tape, middle management, cosy pensions, arrogance and selfishness are all there. Where do people think the money comes from; it is incredulous.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mapletree Croydon 11 Nov 20 10.45pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by BarEagle
My dealings with local authorities is extremely poor. The commercial realities are combated with jealousy and over zealous attitudes. They forget that it is private individuals and entrepreneurs who pay their salaries. Policies, procedures, red tape, middle management, cosy pensions, arrogance and selfishness are all there. Where do people think the money comes from; it is incredulous. They letting you out again now then? How was that for you and did it work?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
HKOwen  Hong Kong 11 Nov 20 10.53pm |
|
|---|---|
|
I fully agree with most of the views on here that years of incompetence, likely corruption and individual vanity have led Croydon Council to this point.
I have no idea what happens from here in terms of the future if you live in Croydon and need the services Somehow those individuals who self enriched need to be bought to account
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 11 Nov 20 11.06pm |
|
|---|---|
|
The council has been run by morons for 10 years. While it is a valid argument to say Croydon is underfunded compared to other boroughs (compounded further by its size and large population) and therefore other streams of income and investment had to be found, pouring money into property building and investment might seem like a good idea but only if it’s handled by people that know what they’re doing. Buying a failing (now failed) hotel and a low footfall semi-suburban retail car park with atrocious locational appeal and poor transport links is mental. Even worse when you enter a pandemic a few months later, and that’s just for starters. The whole Westfield thing has ended up a disaster - but in a way, I feel a bullet has been dodged as the direction of travel is more experiential and less retail led, creating destinations that entertain and accommodate first supported by retail, rather than the 2000s Westfield model of retail first. I believe that is where the plans will end up - residential with leisure entertainment and restaurants as the focus. Stratford and Shepherds Bush are going to have interesting decisions to make the other side of this era. Hopefully with the reality of the cap on spending and some people being hired that actually know what they’re doing in 5 years there will start to be more of an upward trajectory rather than a stagnating one. There is an opportunity here, but it’s probably unlikely to be fully embraced.
Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mapletree Croydon 11 Nov 20 11.10pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by HKOwen
I fully agree with most of the views on here that years of incompetence, likely corruption and individual vanity have led Croydon Council to this point.
I have no idea what happens from here in terms of the future if you live in Croydon and need the services Somehow those individuals who self enriched need to be bought to account Self-enrichment is a big claim. I am more inclined to cock up than conspiracy, after all this is local government. Or do you have proof?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.