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HeathMan Flag Purley 31 Aug 20 10.00am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Black armbands and kneeling need to be done with thought and information (for whom), otherwise either event probably loses all meaning.

In the palace team we have a mix of black, white, and foreign players.

When we celebrate a goal we are acknowleing an achievement.

Going out to take down a statue is following the mob. Those who have done well enough to be remembered in stone have achieved in their time - just like Usain Bolt.

it is worth a look at the statues on the outside of the Westminster Abbey wall to obtain an appreciation of how we got to where we are.

Another place to look at is the Wettern Tree Garden. from memory Mr Wettern was an importer of nails and took an interest in tree seeds - creating a display of living and educational statues.

All people need to think about what previous events have done to make their lives matter.

 

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orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 31 Aug 20 10.43am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

yesterday Aubameyang scored, and did a 'black Panther' salute.

the BT Sport commentator nearly wet himself with excitement.

i will be fully accepting of 'Black Power' political diatribe if they also permit 'White Power' ? do it in memory of all the girls persecuted by the Rape Gangs in the North.

By 'White Power' are you suggesting pointy white hoods and burning crosses? Wouldn't that damage the pitch?

Is this taking of the knee not simply another example of the right to free speech and expression.

Not that I would do it myself as my knees are pretty much gone these days. I would need help getting up.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 31 Aug 20 11.03am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

By 'White Power' are you suggesting pointy white hoods and burning crosses? Wouldn't that damage the pitch?

Is this taking of the knee not simply another example of the right to free speech and expression.

Not that I would do it myself as my knees are pretty much gone these days. I would need help getting up.

Players are allowed to do as they wish during the match, unless FIXA or UEFA or whoever start banning political gestures again but that’ll only by one kind of salute like Paula Di Canio’s at Lazio.

But setting aside an organised minute before the match is different. If the premier league want to they can blow the kick off whistle and if the team doesn’t kick off then 2 players can get booked and sent off.

This isn’t going to go well if it continues when the fans get back and sky and bt etc could lose revenue before. Many fans will either chant during it, turn their backs or turn up after it. It’s because it’s a marxist and black power movement. Just replace the s*** with ‘End racism’ and some other acknowledgement and a little less subservient and people might not be so put off by it.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (31 Aug 2020 11.05am)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 31 Aug 20 11.07am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

By 'White Power' are you suggesting pointy white hoods and burning crosses? Wouldn't that damage the pitch?

Is this taking of the knee not simply another example of the right to free speech and expression.

Not that I would do it myself as my knees are pretty much gone these days. I would need help getting up.

It would be better to keep football and politics separate. We are divided by many things supporting your club is one of the few things that brings men and yes I mean men together regardless of their politics, class or where they came from.

I remember Sasa Curcic doing his walk around the ground in support of the Serbians I was very unhappy that the club allowed that.

Often father son relationships are tricky football is a safe topic of discussion where they can bond.

Keep all politics out of it. Away from the game players should be free to speak out on whatever they want.

Edited by Badger11 (31 Aug 2020 11.09am)

 


One more point

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Aug 20 3.58pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Kneel before Zod.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 31 Aug 20 4.12pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Kneel before Zod.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 31 Aug 20 4.19pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Players are allowed to do as they wish during the match, unless FIXA or UEFA or whoever start banning political gestures again but that’ll only by one kind of salute like Paula Di Canio’s at Lazio.

But setting aside an organised minute before the match is different. If the premier league want to they can blow the kick off whistle and if the team doesn’t kick off then 2 players can get booked and sent off.

This isn’t going to go well if it continues when the fans get back and sky and bt etc could lose revenue before. Many fans will either chant during it, turn their backs or turn up after it. It’s because it’s a marxist and black power movement. Just replace the s*** with ‘End racism’ and some other acknowledgement and a little less subservient and people might not be so put off by it.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (31 Aug 2020 11.05am)

In the Belgium Scalectix y/day, apart from the fact 8 of the drivers refused to kneel, the only person to wear a 'Black Power Fisted BLM' shirt was Hamilton & only 12 others either wore or had 'End Racism' shirts.

I wonder if fans replica shirts will have the logo's on the bottom of the shirts? If so, i certainly be buying one.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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IMMER PALACE Flag BIELEFELD 31 Aug 20 5.40pm Send a Private Message to IMMER PALACE Add IMMER PALACE as a friend

In response to the OP's question, I am deeply conflicted. I abhor racism but the aims of the BLM movement are clear and extreme - I do not back them at all and if Palace are to retain my support, the club and league will have to distance itself from these extremists.

If football is to become another branch of political culture wars, I am out. I will simply go fishing instead. I am already done with Sky and will never pay them another penny.

If the kneeling and all that palaver remains - I am out. Done not just with Palace but all football.

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 31 Aug 20 5.41pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 31 Aug 20 5.48pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Personally I would never kneel, unless before Mistress.

Ozil apparently refused at the Arse and went off in a huff.

Good luck to him black lives do matter but they don't need this futile and inappropriate gesture.

We would be better occupied in getting the Windrush people their dough such is the deception of anything the tories promise.


 

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BlueJay Flag UK 31 Aug 20 9.44pm

Not only will I kneel, but I will also force those around me to. I will physically force them.


Just kidding. I can't even imagine that it'll be something that will drag on to the point it's a decision we even have to make. I'd kneel if I dropped something and had to pick it up. Practicality over politics.

Edited by BlueJay (31 Aug 2020 9.45pm)

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Sep 20 7.01am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Personally I would never kneel, unless before Mistress.

Ozil apparently refused at the Arse and went off in a huff.

Good luck to him black lives do matter but they don't need this futile and inappropriate gesture.

We would be better occupied in getting the Windrush people their dough such is the deception of anything the tories promise.


Tory bashing in a post about blm and kneeling.
You just cant help yourself!
Although I would guess you think its racist that they havent all been given gzilliions of pounds.

 

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