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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 15 Jun 20 11.31am |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
You know how taxation works? What do you think? No he means if the BLM principles of socialism reign over Britain, do black people have to give everything up to be divided amongst everyone in Britain? You knew what he meant. Equality ok. Warped politics? Fvck off.
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 berlinpalace  berlin 15 Jun 20 11.44am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
No he means if the BLM principles of socialism reign over Britain, do black people have to give everything up to be divided amongst everyone in Britain? You knew what he meant. Equality ok. Warped politics? Fvck off. You can cherry pick some of the more extreme views, in what is a broad movement, to back up your fake outrage if you like but the majority of people realise that this is a moment to advance the cause of equality in society. You know what we mean.
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cryrst  The garden of England 15 Jun 20 11.56am |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
You can cherry pick some of the more extreme views, in what is a broad movement, to back up your fake outrage if you like but the majority of people realise that this is a moment to advance the cause of equality in society. You know what we mean. No black guy ever offered his joint to me so that's not fair. What is advancing the cause of equality?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Jun 20 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
You can cherry pick some of the more extreme views, in what is a broad movement, to back up your fake outrage if you like but the majority of people realise that this is a moment to advance the cause of equality in society. You know what we mean. You knew what he meant and you thought you were being clever then and now. I agree with opportunities based on merit, as will many Asian people, on minority history in schools, on colonialism in education, as long as lefties don’t give their biased slant on history and it’s understood what was going on in the world. I do not agree with positive discrimination, removal of majority culture, airbrushing of history etc and no Marxist ideology. Maybe young black people can drop their prejudice while we’re going about things? Maybe the black community can do their bit to improve not only the chances of black people but the community as well. Maybe they can stop agitating people over Churchill’s statue as well. Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Jun 2020 12.16pm)
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jun 20 12.08pm |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
You can cherry pick some of the more extreme views, in what is a broad movement, to back up your fake outrage if you like but the majority of people realise that this is a moment to advance the cause of equality in society. You know what we mean. Everything you've just said is contradictory and nonsensical, a bit like a certain 'movement' at the moment.
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| berlinpalace berlin 15 Jun 20 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You knew what he meant and you thought you were being clever then and now. I agree with opportunities based on merit, as will many Asian people, on minority history in schools, on colonialism in education, as long as lefties don’t give their biased slant on history and it’s understood what was going on in the world. I do not agree with positive discrimination, removal of majority culture, airbrushing of history etc and no Marxist ideology. Maybe young black people can drop their prejudice while we’re going about things? Maybe the black community can do their bit to improve not only the chances of black people but the community as well. Maybe they can stop agitating people over Churchill’s statue as well. Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Jun 2020 12.16pm) A lot to unpack there Rudi. But to stick to my specialty, when we try to show what actually happened in history lots of right wingers get upset. Not just a western problem, lots of countries would like their history to be fluffier than it is.
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| cryrst The garden of England 15 Jun 20 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
A lot to unpack there Rudi. But to stick to my specialty, when we try to show what actually happened in history lots of right wingers get upset. Not just a western problem, lots of countries would like their history to be fluffier than it is. By right wingers you only mean tory or republicans, I mean not far right? That being the case, if that is the case then you are soooooo wrong. I learned about bad s*** at school and was shocked it actually happened. I will discuss things that are unpleasant and admit that our history, well all as you say was pretty abhorrent at times. I know that lynchings of black people even as close as 100 years ago wasnt about them doing bad stuff all the time. Some was the threat that they may jump up the ladder and become equal in status. Basically blm have to get that just because it isnt discussed it doesnt mean people dont know or agree or are in praise of it and because of that doesnt mean they are racist.
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| Matov 15 Jun 20 3.17pm |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
You get that it’s a symbolic ten dollars? You understood the bit where he says ‘... if you can’t share ten dollars now how are you going to share power and wealth in future?’ It’s about confronting your own fear.
The $10 is not symbolic. It is hard cash. Perhaps not a huge sum in relative terms but still effectively a transfer of wealth based on nothing more than skin colour and if the White people do not pay up, then they need to effectively leave this bright new world. Out of interest are you happy to hand over your money? Your wealth?
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| berlinpalace berlin 15 Jun 20 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The is not symbolic. It is hard cash. Perhaps not a huge sum in relative terms but still effectively a transfer of wealth based on nothing more than skin colour and if the White people do not pay up, then they need to effectively leave this bright new world. Out of interest are you happy to hand over your money? Your wealth? Of course it’s symbolic, it’s not a demand. He’s saying if you can’t do this one little thing right now how are you going to be able to really give up your power/influence/privilege further down the line? You get a lot of new people coming to the movement but not really knowing how to participate, this is just a tool to help them along the way. Participating in horizontal groups can be a bit daunting, of course the onus will be on the people who have traditionally had the privilege to give some of it up. It also works the other way for people who are not traditionally used to being listened to.
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| cryrst The garden of England 15 Jun 20 8.24pm |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
Of course it’s symbolic, it’s not a demand. He’s saying if you can’t do this one little thing right now how are you going to be able to really give up your power/influence/privilege further down the line? You get a lot of new people coming to the movement but not really knowing how to participate, this is just a tool to help them along the way. Participating in horizontal groups can be a bit daunting, of course the onus will be on the people who have traditionally had the privilege to give some of it up. It also works the other way for people who are not traditionally used to being listened to. Power influence and privilege what a load of
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| berlinpalace berlin 15 Jun 20 10.19pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Power influence and privilege what a load of Last I heard the proportion of the UK population who identify as black was around 4 percent. I think you’re ok for a few more weeks you nervous little racist you 😉.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jun 20 1.00am |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
Last I heard the proportion of the UK population who identify as black was around 4 percent. I think you’re ok for a few more weeks you nervous little racist you 😉. Ah bless, white saviour gets his 'racist' fix. Census data shows that: from 2001 to 2011, the percentage of the population of England and Wales that identified as White British decreased from 87.4% to 80.5% That was nearly ten years ago. We have just seen the heritage of whites under attack in England's capital city. That's more than a right to a legitimate complaint Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2020 1.05am)
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