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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 20 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Don't come out with the china rubbish because what do you think a lot of the mobile masks and even your home broadband use for equipment yes thats right comes from this company the same with all the new 5g will be as well. Edited by grumpymort (19 Apr 2020 9.48pm) Thanks for your unnecessarily and perplexingly aggressive response. The problem with Huawei is that new models now, although still using the Android OS, won't be able to use any apps originating in the USA (ie most of them) or even access Google Play due to the embargo. The comment I made was nothing to do with 'this China rubbish' as you so eloquently put it - it's simply a practicality issue. I mentioned that I have a OnePlus phone, also Chinese, so it should have been obvious to you that my concerns re Huawei were not on moral grounds. Good day to you.
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 Mapletree Croydon 20 Apr 20 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Thanks for your unnecessarily and perplexingly aggressive response. The problem with Huawei is that new models now, although still using the Android OS, won't be able to use any apps originating in the USA (ie most of them) or even access Google Play due to the embargo. The comment I made was nothing to do with 'this China rubbish' as you so eloquently put it - it's simply a practicality issue. I mentioned that I have a OnePlus phone, also Chinese, so it should have been obvious to you that my concerns re Huawei were not on moral grounds. Good day to you. True that Lots of playing dirty goes on in the telecomms and ISP worlds
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 20 Apr 20 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Thanks for your unnecessarily and perplexingly aggressive response. The problem with Huawei is that new models now, although still using the Android OS, won't be able to use any apps originating in the USA (ie most of them) or even access Google Play due to the embargo. The comment I made was nothing to do with 'this China rubbish' as you so eloquently put it - it's simply a practicality issue. I mentioned that I have a OnePlus phone, also Chinese, so it should have been obvious to you that my concerns re Huawei were not on moral grounds. Good day to you.
Their new phones work just fine with the google store (play store) and so do the apps it just requires the user to do a few things so it's not out of the box functioning. Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I’ve tried O2 in a load of places and it was a load of cr@p. The website shows good coverage but in practice it was terrible. EE works in places you wouldn’t expect it to. In shops, buildings, lifts, trains, just about bloody anywhere. I’ve never cursed having EE, ever. O2 was a complete false economy. It doesn’t work in lots and lots of places. I’d rather not pay less for something that doesn’t do what it should, and I don’t.
Here is some simple info for you none of the network coverage checkers are correct they are generated which is why all of them should even state this in small print now. So ee has worked in a few of these places which you claim you don't expect it too o my do you not understand that these networks will switch 2g-3g-4g different frequencies work in different scenarios also a lot of places like trains have signal repeaters (boosters) this tends to be for only some networks which have deals with the operator why is that because the train drivers do use mobiles. The place I work and live ee cant even get a stable 2g signal yet o2 has 4g max out. You are just being small minded which is why people should always check for their needs to be sure.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 20 1.16pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Their new phones work just fine with the google store (play store) and so do the apps. It's a US issue so only the people over their need to pay attention even then you can get around those restrictions it's really not that hard. It's actually not uniquely a US issue. Anyone using a Huawei phone, anywhere in the world, will find that the most popular apps can only be installed 'unofficially' meaning that there are going to be a whole load of unverified .apk packages out there. You're correct that it's possible to get around the restrictions but not without a significant degree of risk to the user. It also means that your apps won't be updated, patched etc if they're acquired from outside the Google Play ecosphere. I'm not denying the quality of Huawei phones - they're very good, by all accounts - and, indeed, many of the current models are still supported. It's the newer ones that will carry the risk. Obviously the rubbish I read is of better quality than your rubbish.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Apr 20 1.28pm |
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Something tells me that Chinese companies aren't going to be doing as well going forward in Europe and the anglosphere. Serves them right in more ways than just this virus.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Apr 20 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Here is some simple info for you none of the network coverage checkers are correct they are generated which is why all of them should even state this in small print now. So ee has worked in a few of these places which you claim you don't expect it too o my do you not understand that these networks will switch 2g-3g-4g different frequencies work in different scenarios also a lot of places like trains have signal repeaters (boosters) this tends to be for only some networks which have deals with the operator why is that because the train drivers do use mobiles. The place I work and live ee cant even get a stable 2g signal yet o2 has 4g max out. You are just being small minded which is why people should always check for their needs to be sure.
Again, read what I’ve said. I’ll even post it here so you can digest it slowly again rather than instantly ranting and raging. I was thinking of highlighting key bits in bold but I’ll leave you the challenge. I’ve tried O2 in a load of places and it was a load of cr@p. The website shows good coverage but in practice it was terrible. EE works in places you wouldn’t expect it to. In shops, buildings, lifts, trains, just about bloody anywhere. I’ve never cursed having EE, ever. O2 was a complete false economy. It doesn’t work in lots and lots of places. I’d rather not pay less for something that doesn’t do what it should, and I don’t.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 20 2.38pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Again, read what I’ve said. I’ll even post it here so you can digest it slowly again rather than instantly ranting and raging. I was thinking of highlighting key bits in bold but I’ll leave you the challenge. I’ve tried O2 in a load of places and it was a load of cr@p. The website shows good coverage but in practice it was terrible. EE works in places you wouldn’t expect it to. In shops, buildings, lifts, trains, just about bloody anywhere. I’ve never cursed having EE, ever. O2 was a complete false economy. It doesn’t work in lots and lots of places. I’d rather not pay less for something that doesn’t do what it should, and I don’t. As Pikester once famously said "I preferred you when you were just Mort".
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| grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 20 Apr 20 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
It's actually not uniquely a US issue. Anyone using a Huawei phone, anywhere in the world, will find that the most popular apps can only be installed 'unofficially' meaning that there are going to be a whole load of unverified .apk packages out there. You're correct that it's possible to get around the restrictions but not without a significant degree of risk to the user. It also means that your apps won't be updated, patched etc if they're acquired from outside the Google Play ecosphere. I'm not denying the quality of Huawei phones - they're very good, by all accounts - and, indeed, many of the current models are still supported. It's the newer ones that will carry the risk. Obviously the rubbish I read is of better quality than your rubbish.
learn a thing or two about modern phones you can change the id of a device also add certs so the huawei is seen as another android phone which shares the same hardware. people have been doing this for years and this is a method a lot of chinese phones use to get around restrictions also so some apps function. I get my info straight from insiders and you would be better of taking a look at xda you may learn a thing or two about phones I will agree if you want a phone to work 100% out of the box then yes this brand may be one to think about the pro and con for what you need it for.
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