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| W12 07 Apr 20 5.55pm | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
why don't we just have a new section called 'Stirling Talk' which only has arguments about masculinity and genetic determinism in a racial context? A load of old b*ll*x in other words. I think you will find that he's someone that will at least put forward a clear argument. You don't seem to bother.
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 the.universal 07 Apr 20 5.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Your personality determines what your interests are. Your personality is partially determined by your genes. That's about it. What about this homosexual politics bit though?
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Stirlingsays  07 Apr 20 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
why don't we just have a new section called 'Stirling Talk' which only has arguments about masculinity and genetic determinism in a racial context? A load of old b*ll*x in other words. You introduced race into something that isn't connected to race.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Apr 20 5.59pm |
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Originally posted by the.universal
What about this homosexual politics bit though? What about it?
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| Stirlingsays 07 Apr 20 6.17pm |
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Originally posted by W12
If people have totally lost any trust in the media (understandably) then who can blame them for being paranoid and latching onto conspiracy theores? In the absence of truth and living in a low trust society what are you supposed to believe? People know they are being lied to on a daily basis. The Internet has opened up people to alternative news sources. Now you can split people into groups who are all listening....to an extent....to differing versions of the same event. Lots of them think their bubble is the only way to view whatever happens around them. As society becomes more polarised people will double down rather than take in differing views. Then you get the elites trying to impose their particular angle using laws they introduce for themselves and corporate force. Even though we are all affected by whatever twists and turns occur, it's all very fascinating, if a little scary.
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| .TUX. 07 Apr 20 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by W12
If people have totally lost any trust in the media (understandably) then who can blame them for being paranoid and latching onto conspiracy theores? In the absence of truth and living in a low trust society what are you supposed to believe? People know they are being lied to on a daily basis. If only more would realise this simple fact.
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cryrst  The garden of England 07 Apr 20 7.30pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
If only more would realise this simple fact. That's how it's been since civilisation began in one form or another.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Apr 20 8.46pm |
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Originally posted by W12
If people have totally lost any trust in the media (understandably) then who can blame them for being paranoid and latching onto conspiracy theores? In the absence of truth and living in a low trust society what are you supposed to believe? People know they are being lied to on a daily basis. That is such a cynical and, in my opinion, false view. I trust the media 10 times more than anything whose source is the internet, which is the principal alternative. I think most people understand that. Oh I realise that the commercial media present stories to suit their agendas and they might position them, or even ignore them completely, for the same reason. They do though have editors and lawyers fact checking. If you read a balanced selection then you will find the important facts on most things. The much maligned (on here anyway) BBC, being free from commercial pressures (if not political ones at the moment) are the bastion of unbiased information here in the UK, and in many other countries. Compare that to the internet, where anyone, whether sane or not, with a particular agenda, or none, can publish whatever they like with very little chance of it being taken down. No editors or lawyers to restrain a blatant lie. So there really aren't any "alternative news sources" on the web. That is about as valid a claim as Trump's "alternative facts". There are just lots of opinions blended with political mischief making. The truth will always be the truth. What it is is what separates people. So long as we recognise the difference between a "news" source which has been subjected to scrutiny before publication, and one that hasn't then no harm is done. Conflating the two as equals is where the problems arise.
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| .TUX. 07 Apr 20 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
That's how it's been since civilisation began in one form or another. Would life not be better?
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| .TUX. 07 Apr 20 10.23pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is such a cynical and, in my opinion, false view. I trust the media 10 times more than anything whose source is the internet, which is the principal alternative. I think most people understand that. Oh I realise that the commercial media present stories to suit their agendas and they might position them, or even ignore them completely, for the same reason. They do though have editors and lawyers fact checking. If you read a balanced selection then you will find the important facts on most things. The much maligned (on here anyway) BBC, being free from commercial pressures (if not political ones at the moment) are the bastion of unbiased information here in the UK, and in many other countries. Compare that to the internet, where anyone, whether sane or not, with a particular agenda, or none, can publish whatever they like with very little chance of it being taken down. No editors or lawyers to restrain a blatant lie. So there really aren't any "alternative news sources" on the web. That is about as valid a claim as Trump's "alternative facts". There are just lots of opinions blended with political mischief making. The truth will always be the truth. What it is is what separates people. So long as we recognise the difference between a "news" source which has been subjected to scrutiny before publication, and one that hasn't then no harm is done. Conflating the two as equals is where the problems arise. Which is why you, along with many, can't explain to those who follow will never be as financially healthy as you have been........no matter how hard you try.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Apr 20 11.15pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Which is why you, along with many, can't explain to those who follow will never be as financially healthy as you have been........no matter how hard you try. You are merely doing what I have said people do. Nothing to see then. You are buying into conspiracy theories aka people's personal opinions. I know that the economic impact consequences of this crisis will be enormous but not yet accurately foreseeable. That is being discussed in the MSM but they are, absolutely correctly in my view, concentrating on encouraging people to follow the rules whilst offering reassurance and support. Whether the "Everything Bubble" has gone pop, or not, is just another manifestation of the plague of conspiracy theories that infect the public spaces these days. People have forecasted the end of times throughout my life and always been wrong. Perhaps one day they might be right. I don't think we will go back to the times we knew prior to this but we will recover. It's far from only listening to what I am told to. I listen to a lot of the other stuff too. What I also do that it seems that some don't is evaluate it's source objectively. When you do that the cracks can appear very quickly.
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| .TUX. 07 Apr 20 11.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You are merely doing what I have said people do. Nothing to see then. You are buying into conspiracy theories aka people's personal opinions. I know that the economic impact consequences of this crisis will be enormous but not yet accurately foreseeable. That is being discussed in the MSM but they are, absolutely correctly in my view, concentrating on encouraging people to follow the rules whilst offering reassurance and support. Whether the "Everything Bubble" has gone pop, or not, is just another manifestation of the plague of conspiracy theories that infect the public spaces these days. People have forecasted the end of times throughout my life and always been wrong. Perhaps one day they might be right. I don't think we will go back to the times we knew prior to this but we will recover. It's far from only listening to what I am told to. I listen to a lot of the other stuff too. What I also do that it seems that some don't is evaluate it's source objectively. When you do that the cracks can appear very quickly.
I'll repeat as you're obviously too dumb to get it the first time around.......The media that you trust has never once mentioned Sept 17th 2019, the largest bloody financial meltdown in history. But you know better.
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