It doesn't work like that clubs like Leeds and Forest have been rebuilding for over 15 years and they were big clubs, they are still dreaming of a return.

If people don't want to renew their season ticket that's fine everyone has a choice, its the normal churn of supporters. Why they feel the need to try a justify it is strange, nobody really cares. It seems like there pointing out how foolish other people are for renewing theirs, to make themselves feel better.

That is depressing in itself.

We did finish third once when the top league was crap and that for me was far more exciting than the current period.
I fear that mid table in the PL will remain our greatest achievement for some time to come and that is why I have had enough.
Loyal is one thing, dumb is another.

I underrstand how the OP feels but posting that on here was only ever gonna provoke another "I'm a better supporter than you" blah blah. Perhaps that is what he wanted.

I just wish we could stop moaning and start talking football. Yes I know..." we'd stop moaning if the players started playing" but come on there must be something going on at Palace worth discussing.

Ooh I just noticed my yellow card is gone . happy days .

oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

I don't think that anyone is seeking to justify themselves but they are merely making a point to the HOL community about their dissatisfaction with the way the club is currently being mismanaged

Although the football is so dire at times, as well as our off-the-pitch business, I think it's indicative of getting older that it becomes less enjoyable. Probably football in general. Priorities change, seen it all before, things in football changing from what you're used to (nostalgia) etc.