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 EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 29 Aug 19 3.19pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by RyWa
Not sure i used the term top 6? - AWB last season - Wilf Zaha 2-3 year period leading up to him picking Ivory Coast - Jason Puncheon of 2013 - 2015 - Scott Dann of 2014 - 2015 Leicester are outside the Top 6, but are always talked about as this great club, however they never quite live up to the media hype (minus winning the league incredibly). Bournemouth are another one, despite quite regularly finishing below us, Eddie Howe and his "plucky" Bouremouth side can do no wrong in the eye of the media. Palace sit third behind City & Liverpool in points gained in the last 18 games (thats pretty much half a season). So far this season, we have 4 points after 3 games, and its been widely remarked that we've had a poor start, however Brighton, Burnley, Bournemouth & West Ham in the eyes of some pundits have had decent starts, yet also sit on 4 points. As mentioned previously, we are unfashionable. Is it only us who are unfashionable or are there others? Off the top of my head, since taking over Southgate has picked players from; - Brighton
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| RyWa Beckenham 29 Aug 19 3.37pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Is it only us who are unfashionable or are there others? Off the top of my head, since taking over Southgate has picked players from; - Brighton
I dont even think its because theres a vendetta against us, i think the external perception of Palace is such that we just get overlooked.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 Aug 19 3.38pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Maine Eagle
So predictable wasnt it. So utterly predictable. Southgate has done a lot well but the selection process still stinks to high heaven and AWB is now a textbook example. Totally agree. Could have put your house on him getting a call-up once he had Man U next to his name
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 Aug 19 3.40pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by RyWa
I dont even think its because theres a vendetta against us, i think the external perception of Palace is such that we just get overlooked. I think the lad Cantwell has a big future, hope he doesn't get his head turned for his own sake. Not sure if he is English though.
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| RyWa Beckenham 29 Aug 19 3.43pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Spiderman
I think the lad Cantwell has a big future, hope he doesn't get his head turned for his own sake. Not sure if he is English though. I think Conor Coady was their best chance of getting someone in the England squad, but it seems Southgate doesnt fancy him. Very good player though.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 Aug 19 3.44pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Just seen the squad. How many games has Oxlade-Chamberlain played in the last 12 months?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Aug 19 3.51pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by RyWa
I think Conor Coady was their best chance of getting someone in the England squad, but it seems Southgate doesnt fancy him. Very good player though. Yeah it’s Coady, or wait for Gibbs-White to kick on - I expect he’ll be around the England team within 2-3 years. Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (29 Aug 2019 3.57pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Aug 19 3.56pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by RyWa
I dont even think its because theres a vendetta against us, i think the external perception of Palace is such that we just get overlooked. Given Sheff Utd and Norwich have just come up, it’s really only us and Wolves who haven’t had a player capped - as a wider point, that makes this ‘big club bias’ idea a bit of a nonsense in my opinion (appreciate that was not the point you were making yourself). Personally, I think it’s just because we haven’t particularly had anyone good enough; I can’t agree Punch or Dann were ever really international quality - Tomkins for the last 2 years has been better than Dann ever was, and he’s not had a sniff either. There was obviously politics around Zaha, and don’t get me wrong, it’s a joke that we’ve now lost him for England, but I think there was more to it than Palace’s perception.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 29 Aug 19 3.58pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Does anyone actually believe that Southgate picks the team.......or is he told who to select ? Certainly seems like hes told who he can and cant select...AWB being a case in point..plays for Palace no chance signs for w***ers straight in the team....
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| chris123 hove actually 29 Aug 19 4.15pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Well I'm pleased for him and looking forward to seeing him play.
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| RyWa Beckenham 29 Aug 19 4.17pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Given Sheff Utd and Norwich have just come up, it’s really only us and Wolves who haven’t had a player capped - as a wider point, that makes this ‘big club bias’ idea a bit of a nonsense in my opinion (appreciate that was not the point you were making yourself). Personally, I think it’s just because we haven’t particularly had anyone good enough; I can’t agree Punch or Dann were ever really international quality - Tomkins for the last 2 years has been better than Dann ever was, and he’s not had a sniff either. There was obviously politics around Zaha, and don’t get me wrong, it’s a joke that we’ve now lost him for England, but I think there was more to it than Palace’s perception. When you think back, i definitely think Dann could've competed with Jagielka.
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| RyWa Beckenham 29 Aug 19 4.23pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Proof England squad is not picked on merit' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by the silurian
Does anyone actually believe that Southgate picks the team.......or is he told who to select ? Certainly seems like hes told who he can and cant select...AWB being a case in point..plays for Palace no chance signs for w***ers straight in the team.... I said it in jest earlier, but do you think theres a chance that United could have approached the England Setup and said dont pick Wan-Bisska till after they had signed him to keep costs down?
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