I quiet like fat & plumpy birds.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

The NHS has always been about keeping people alive and making them better.

NHS is poor when it comes to prevention which is one of the many reasons it is in such a state if you guided people correctly and educated correctly so many illness/disease can be prevented but it doesn't why because it's a business that wants people sick and them wanting people to live to 100+ hardly.

The whole not treating drunks and druggies I do not agree but it should be handled in a different way and report offenders should start o get fines etc. (lets not forget both tend to be due to mental health issues another area which has been neglected)

You go die then that is your choice just don't expect every one else to cover your health bills with your awful lifestyle that is what annoys me and no your drink and tobacco tax doesn't cover the costs far from it.

But does their low carb include lots of fruit and veg as well as wholegrains i bet it does which is not low carb at all.

very poor advice about cutting fat and cholesterol this again shows they don't have a clue the data shows both have nothing to do with heart disease the cause is carbs/sugar.

If you do the low to zero carb correctly you will fix the diabetes.

You are classed as overweight by them I take it which is another thing they will push watch the calories blah blah it's complete BS at that weight you may be in good shape could be muscle if it's not the case if they had been teaching correct zero to low carb diet you will drop weight no problem in month or 2 so that is another thing fixed.

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As I have always said. Dietary studies using large samples of the population are always likely to be unreliable because you cannot isolate them from other risk factors.
In the case of saturates, it is now thought that the exaggerated link to mortality rate due to coronary disease was due to smoking.
I have always thought that scientists were a little lacking in the common sense department.
That said, fat still contains double the calories of carbs so shold be eaten in moderation. It is also wise to have the correct balance of fats. Fats that are predominately saturated are still a problem if that is the only type of fat you consume and trans fats are to be avoided completely.

It's a fair comment TUX. If we want to chase anyone with pitchforks it should be mortgage lenders.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Aug 2019 9.59pm)

So to sum up my previous message No fat people should not be allowed to die . Funny and dramatic title though.

Yes, that's exactly right and that's why I think the health service as much as is possible should be open to all. There are often enough barriers to treatment already and enough injustices in life that beset us. As you say, type 1 is a different kettle of fish too in that it's not diet related and so comes down to an unfortunate roll of the dice. As with the coeliac. You should be commended for the way you approach this challenge as a team effort and have educated yourself on it, that's what family is about about. Let us continue to hope for further medical advancements over the years.