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Pussay Patrol 11 Apr 19 4.17pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Assange should not get to decide which laws he will or will not respect. He was awaiting deportation to Sweden not America. Further the idea that Sweden will roll over for the Americans is nonsense. The Swedes on multiple occasions have depth charged Russian sub sneaking into their waters. If you believe Assange the Swedish justice system is not to be trusted which if I were Swedish I would find offensive. I have no idea if he is guilty of these sexual offences or even if the Swedes still want him that is their decision. But he fled from due process in the UK and we need to send a message to him and the speedboat killer that you cannot get away with this otherwise you just invite further trouble. Which will be Alot harder after Brexit Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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11 Apr 19 4.17pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Assange should not get to decide which laws he will or will not respect. He was awaiting deportation to Sweden not America.

Further the idea that Sweden will roll over for the Americans is nonsense. The Swedes on multiple occasions have depth charged Russian sub sneaking into their waters.

If you believe Assange the Swedish justice system is not to be trusted which if I were Swedish I would find offensive. I have no idea if he is guilty of these sexual offences or even if the Swedes still want him that is their decision. But he fled from due process in the UK and we need to send a message to him and the speedboat killer that you cannot get away with this otherwise you just invite further trouble.

Which will be Alot harder after Brexit

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 19 4.19pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Which will be Alot harder after Brexit Not if you’ve been stockpiling speedboats.
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11 Apr 19 4.19pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Which will be Alot harder after Brexit

Not if you’ve been stockpiling speedboats.

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banksy Norwich 11 Apr 19 4.31pm
My first reaction to this news was one of great anger. It has been a witch hunt from the start. The US have always been out to make an example of a major patriotic whistle blower. They can get away with heinous planetary crimes (e.g. Iraq, 9/11) while calling this man a traitor. Let's not forget that in the first place Assange and Wikileaks were/are dedicated to exposing the truth. This while the elitist controlled mass media continue to characterize Assange as a nasty piece of work etc etc. This pap is lapped up by most as truth (to wit some of the comments on this thread) without realizing that the mainstream media are in cahoots with the major governments' falsifications. In general haven't you all noticed that freedoms of speech, freedoms of the press and the freedom to blow the whistle are being constantly eroded (fear abounds in PC land). We live in dangerous times and people need to wake up to what's really going on and see through the propaganda before it's too late.
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Norwich 11 Apr 19 4.31pm

My first reaction to this news was one of great anger. It has been a witch hunt from the start. The US have always been out to make an example of a major patriotic whistle blower. They can get away with heinous planetary crimes (e.g. Iraq, 9/11) while calling this man a traitor. Let's not forget that in the first place Assange and Wikileaks were/are dedicated to exposing the truth. This while the elitist controlled mass media continue to characterize Assange as a nasty piece of work etc etc. This pap is lapped up by most as truth (to wit some of the comments on this thread) without realizing that the mainstream media are in cahoots with the major governments' falsifications. In general haven't you all noticed that freedoms of speech, freedoms of the press and the freedom to blow the whistle are being constantly eroded (fear abounds in PC land). We live in dangerous times and people need to wake up to what's really going on and see through the propaganda before it's too late.

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 19 4.52pm
Originally posted by banksy My first reaction to this news was one of great anger. It has been a witch hunt from the start. The US have always been out to make an example of a major patriotic whistle blower. They can get away with heinous planetary crimes (e.g. Iraq, 9/11) while calling this man a traitor. Let's not forget that in the first place Assange and Wikileaks were/are dedicated to exposing the truth. This while the elitist controlled mass media continue to characterize Assange as a nasty piece of work etc etc. This pap is lapped up by most as truth (to wit some of the comments on this thread) without realizing that the mainstream media are in cahoots with the major governments' falsifications. In general haven't you all noticed that freedoms of speech, freedoms of the press and the freedom to blow the whistle are being constantly eroded (fear abounds in PC land). We live in dangerous times and people need to wake up to what's really going on and see through the propaganda before it's too late. I agree with your attitude towards whistle blowers......they are a necessary check if you are going to have actual democracies......though after what has been passing for democracy recently (Brexit not happening, Basque independence being ignored) I'm starting to lose faith in it. However, I don't believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories. Everything that happened that day has an explanation, I've yet to encounter a good enough reason to believe otherwise. The Iraq war was probably a mistake in hindsight.....though I struggle to weep for Saddam. The Afghanistan war was necessary revenge for 9/11. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 4.55pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 19 4.52pm

Originally posted by banksy

I agree with your attitude towards whistle blowers......they are a necessary check if you are going to have actual democracies......though after what has been passing for democracy recently (Brexit not happening, Basque independence being ignored) I'm starting to lose faith in it.

However, I don't believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories. Everything that happened that day has an explanation, I've yet to encounter a good enough reason to believe otherwise.

The Iraq war was probably a mistake in hindsight.....though I struggle to weep for Saddam.

The Afghanistan war was necessary revenge for 9/11.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 4.55pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 19 9.39pm
From what I have read Assange is neither just a journalist nor just a whistleblower, both of which deserve all the protections we can arrange. He poses as such but they are smokescreens. It appears he may well be a traitor whose real allegiance and paymaster is Putin. My understanding is that the FBI want to get their hands on him because they believe he has a lot of information which will assist them in their investigations into Russian interference in western politics It is rumoured that he holds information which is potentially very damaging to Trump. It will therefore be very interesting to see what Trump has to say about his arrest and expected extradition. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 19 9.39pm

From what I have read Assange is neither just a journalist nor just a whistleblower, both of which deserve all the protections we can arrange. He poses as such but they are smokescreens.

It appears he may well be a traitor whose real allegiance and paymaster is Putin.

My understanding is that the FBI want to get their hands on him because they believe he has a lot of information which will assist them in their investigations into Russian interference in western politics

It is rumoured that he holds information which is potentially very damaging to Trump. It will therefore be very interesting to see what Trump has to say about his arrest and expected extradition.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 19 9.47pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle From what I have read Assange is neither just a journalist nor just a whistleblower, both of which deserve all the protections we can arrange. He poses as such but they are smokescreens. It appears he may well be a traitor whose real allegiance and paymaster is Putin. My understanding is that the FBI want to get their hands on him because they believe he has a lot of information which will assist them in their investigations into Russian interference in western politics It is rumoured that he holds information which is potentially very damaging to Trump. It will therefore be very interesting to see what Trump has to say about his arrest and expected extradition. At what point did this thread become a conspiracy theory thread? There's a rumour that I've got a ten inch weapon stored on my person. Every night I have to carefully handle it in case it might go off and bring the house down. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 19 9.47pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

From what I have read Assange is neither just a journalist nor just a whistleblower, both of which deserve all the protections we can arrange. He poses as such but they are smokescreens.

It appears he may well be a traitor whose real allegiance and paymaster is Putin.

It is rumoured that he holds information which is potentially very damaging to Trump. It will therefore be very interesting to see what Trump has to say about his arrest and expected extradition.

At what point did this thread become a conspiracy theory thread?

There's a rumour that I've got a ten inch weapon stored on my person. Every night I have to carefully handle it in case it might go off and bring the house down.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 19 10.07pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays At what point did this thread become a conspiracy theory thread? There's a rumour that I've got a ten inch weapon stored on my person. Every night I have to carefully handle it in case it might go off and bring the house down. There is a world of difference between wild conspiracy theories dreamt up by those with specific agendas and rumours said to be based on intelligence agency leaks and emanating from previously reliable sources. I disregard the former but tend to believe the latter. You are, of course, free to assume both are worthless. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 19 10.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

At what point did this thread become a conspiracy theory thread?

There's a rumour that I've got a ten inch weapon stored on my person. Every night I have to carefully handle it in case it might go off and bring the house down.

There is a world of difference between wild conspiracy theories dreamt up by those with specific agendas and rumours said to be based on intelligence agency leaks and emanating from previously reliable sources. I disregard the former but tend to believe the latter. You are, of course, free to assume both are worthless.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 19 10.14pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle There is a world of difference between wild conspiracy theories dreamt up by those with specific agendas and rumours said to be based on intelligence agency leaks and emanating from previously reliable sources. I disregard the former but tend to believe the latter. You are, of course, free to assume both are worthless. And where did you happen to hear about this 'rumour'? It wasn't a left learning information source was it per chance? You know what....at least this rumour can quickly be found out to be valid or not.....that way we can ascertain which one of us listens and believes nonsense and which doesn't. Personally I don't rate your chances. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 19 10.14pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

And where did you happen to hear about this 'rumour'? It wasn't a left learning information source was it per chance?

You know what....at least this rumour can quickly be found out to be valid or not.....that way we can ascertain which one of us listens and believes nonsense and which doesn't.

Personally I don't rate your chances.

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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 11 Apr 19 10.29pm
What is not in dispute is he ran to the Ecuadorean Embassy for asylum after the U.K. agreed to extradite him to Sweden to face rape charges. He claims the Swedes were acting as a straw man for the United States which is a bunch of cobblers. If the Swedes honored U.S. extradition requests they would have shipped a whole bunch of Americans back who fled there to avoid going to Vietnam or deserted from the military from Vietnam or had orders to go there. Not one American was ever sent back. That makes Julian Assamge a suspected batterer of woman & a bald faced liar. All the other stuff is irrelevant to me since I despise batterers & rapists. Divorced...And LOVING it! VJRAM Rev. CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach Trevor Francis, International PRAT
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Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 11 Apr 19 10.29pm

What is not in dispute is he ran to the Ecuadorean Embassy for asylum after the U.K. agreed to extradite him to Sweden to face rape charges. He claims the Swedes were acting as a straw man for the United States which is a bunch of cobblers. If the Swedes honored U.S. extradition requests they would have shipped a whole bunch of Americans back who fled there to avoid going to Vietnam or deserted from the military from Vietnam or had orders to go there. Not one American was ever sent back. That makes Julian Assamge a suspected batterer of woman & a bald faced liar. All the other stuff is irrelevant to me since I despise batterers & rapists.

Divorced...And LOVING it!
VJRAM Rev.
CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC
Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach
Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach
Trevor Francis, International PRAT

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 19 10.35pm
Originally posted by kenbarr What is not in dispute is he ran to the Ecuadorean Embassy for asylum after the U.K. agreed to extradite him to Sweden to face rape charges. He claims the Swedes were acting as a straw man for the United States which is a bunch of cobblers. If the Swedes honored U.S. extradition requests they would have shipped a whole bunch of Americans back who fled there to avoid going to Vietnam or deserted from the military from Vietnam or had orders to go there. Not one American was ever sent back. That makes Julian Assamge a suspected batterer of woman & a bald faced liar. All the other stuff is irrelevant to me since I despise batterers & rapists. Well, I guess one way or another we are going to find out what happens to him. What I would say here though is that you seem to be convicting the man based upon your dislike of the crime. Personally, while I don't discount anything I find the whole thing suspicious. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 19 10.35pm

Originally posted by kenbarr

Well, I guess one way or another we are going to find out what happens to him.

What I would say here though is that you seem to be convicting the man based upon your dislike of the crime. Personally, while I don't discount anything I find the whole thing suspicious.

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ChrisGC Wantage 11 Apr 19 10.36pm
Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but if you had to e-fit a sex offender from your imagination alone you'd come up with this geezer's face. Hiding in a boardroom for ten years? Absolutely guilty. Get that beast in clink.
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Wantage 11 Apr 19 10.36pm

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but if you had to e-fit a sex offender from your imagination alone you'd come up with this geezer's face.

Hiding in a boardroom for ten years? Absolutely guilty. Get that beast in clink.

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 19 11.05pm
Originally posted by ChrisGC Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but if you had to e-fit a sex offender from your imagination alone you'd come up with this geezer's face. Hiding in a boardroom for ten years? Absolutely guilty. Get that beast in clink. Apparently the charge wasn't rape anyway......but yeah....looking at the state of him coming out that embassy...... he looks so bad I doubt even Ian McKellen would bend him over. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 11.06pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 19 11.05pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but if you had to e-fit a sex offender from your imagination alone you'd come up with this geezer's face.

Hiding in a boardroom for ten years? Absolutely guilty. Get that beast in clink.

Apparently the charge wasn't rape anyway......but yeah....looking at the state of him coming out that embassy...... he looks so bad I doubt even Ian McKellen would bend him over.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 11.06pm)

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