From my globe trotting experience, every race, nation, culture has its racists. It's part of that tribal, primal instinct - just as they have thieves, murderers, rapists and other vile things which are not going anywhere, sadly.

Racism will never disappear but that doesn't mean we accept it - a bloke in the stands shouts out abuse - telling me no one around him can do anything? Sure, some people are afraid to step in?

A system needs to be in place where it can be reported, safely, quickly and anon so that the law of the land can be applied

This was once a quality forum....

There is such a system, in this country, where you might get one moron because hundreds of them was either 30 years ago or, ‘that’s so 30 years ago.’ Montenegro are still where we were 30-40 years ago unfortunately. It won’t change asap.

I agree on your first paragraph. Humans aren’t all nice and mobs and herd mentality does exist.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (07 Apr 2019 7.45pm)

COYP

I was responding to vaibow saying,

‘A system needs to be in place where it can be reported, safely, quickly and anon so that the law of the land can be applied.’

COYP

hate speech. if a bloke wants to be racist i his own home, so be it.... educated people that hear will make their own mind up and slowly, but surely, racism will recede.
Morgan Freeman has some great quotes on racism.

This was once a quality forum....

If it kicks off ina big way at a stadium like in Monte negro, I would walk off. If say Rose had walked ( and I’m sure he would have been followed by some of his team mates) besides the fact it would have caused major international news, it would have ruined the night for all the spectators present.
Football at large would have to support them fully or be shown up for not really caring. The spectators would then immediately make sure the racist thugs packed it in or have their entertainment ruined. Hey presto, problem at games solved.
Make a stand players. Be strong. Walk next time it kicks off.
There are enough black players now to do this and kill it.
Imagine the publicity. Far greater than any useless fine FIFA has imposed.

Your 'strong decisive action' won't work. I appreciate the desire to reduce this stuff but do you seriously think that this hasn't been looked into many times?

Which thugs exactly? How can you be sure you are punishing the right people? People lie, people make mistakes.... How many times are you going to be stopping a game?

When a game is underway and we get some chanting that a player or players find offensive and the players are removed.....the idea that 'thugs' can be quickly identified is a bit fanciful. It's wishful thinking.

So you identify correctly or incorrectly Jimbob and his mate and throw them out.....You restart the game.....Then you get someone else or a group shouting something.....What are you going to do?....Stop the game again? Go through the same procedure?

What if one team is losing a game heavily and this becomes a method of abandoning the game? The reality is that as soon as it's made clear that there is a way that a result can be determined then you are going to get dishonest actors.

People have used their free time and paid a lot of money for tickets to see a football match. Abusive fans are far more effectively dealt with by camera footage after the game when there is time to effectively put together an accurate picture of who did what.....Action taken is then fair and appropriate.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2019 4.37am)

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