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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Mar 19 8.22pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Recent 'advances' in DNA testing has made the conviction of two suspects in the S. Lawrence murder possible. You would hope that more cold-cases were revisited in this way, if the test results were so conclusive. And like the Lawrence DNA evidence, The Ripper evidence was probably exposed to lots of contamination over time. However, the DNA testing is quite robust now, so that I think it more likely than not, they have identified Jack D Ripper. The reason I have not submitted my DNA sample to "Trace your Ancestry", type companies regards a few issues: 1. My grandfather 'put it about' all over the globe. I really can't be bothered to meet my hundreds of relatives. 2. At what point will these DNA companies be forced to disclose clients DNA to the police.? I do not want my DNA on file, anywhere. 3. Finding out undesirable stuff, like you were adopted, or your mother was Rose West, or similar. Or your wife is really your sister. Blluurghhh Edited by Forest Hillbilly (20 Mar 2019 8.01pm) I was watching one of those US murder programmes where the killer was caught because he sent in his DNA to Ancestry.com or whatever. I suggest that you would probably be better off not sending a sample in Forest. You might get linked to that can of cider you nicked in 1986. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Mar 19 8.22pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Recent 'advances' in DNA testing has made the conviction of two suspects in the S. Lawrence murder possible.
You would hope that more cold-cases were revisited in this way, if the test results were so conclusive.
And like the Lawrence DNA evidence, The Ripper evidence was probably exposed to lots of contamination over time.

However, the DNA testing is quite robust now, so that I think it more likely than not, they have identified Jack D Ripper.

The reason I have not submitted my DNA sample to "Trace your Ancestry", type companies regards a few issues:

1. My grandfather 'put it about' all over the globe. I really can't be bothered to meet my hundreds of relatives.
2. At what point will these DNA companies be forced to disclose clients DNA to the police.? I do not want my DNA on file, anywhere.
3. Finding out undesirable stuff, like you were adopted, or your mother was Rose West, or similar. Or your wife is really your sister.

Blluurghhh

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (20 Mar 2019 8.01pm)

I was watching one of those US murder programmes where the killer was caught because he sent in his DNA to Ancestry.com or whatever. I suggest that you would probably be better off not sending a sample in Forest. You might get linked to that can of cider you nicked in 1986.

Red and Blue Army!

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Stirlingsays 20 Mar 19 8.39pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I was watching one of those US murder programmes where the killer was caught because he sent in his DNA to Ancestry.com or whatever. I suggest that you would probably be better off not sending a sample in Forest. You might get linked to that can of cider you nicked in 1986. Oh my god....I hope they don't send in that girl's curtains back in 91.....that'll be one bill I really don't need right now. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2019 8.40pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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20 Mar 19 8.39pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Oh my god....I hope they don't send in that girl's curtains back in 91.....that'll be one bill I really don't need right now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2019 8.40pm)

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Stirlingsays 20 Mar 19 8.46pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Jacek the ripper - doesn't have the same ring to it. I wonder if he also did a bit of building work on the side. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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20 Mar 19 8.46pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Jacek the ripper - doesn't have the same ring to it.

I wonder if he also did a bit of building work on the side.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 21 Mar 19 3.53pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The Ripper thing has always irritated me. The real story of the Ripper is police incompetence. If you cut through all the sensationalism, ignore the fake letters and multiple theories about foreigners, the real culprit is fairly obvious. A man who a policeman found over the body of a victim who had just been killed and with no one else in sight. His walk to work took him close to all the slayings and he worked with meat. Duh! Charles Cross (Charles Lechmere) This. Brilliant detective work by a Danish? Journalist. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The Ripper thing has always irritated me.

The real story of the Ripper is police incompetence.

If you cut through all the sensationalism, ignore the fake letters and multiple theories about foreigners, the real culprit is fairly obvious.

A man who a policeman found over the body of a victim who had just been killed and with no one else in sight. His walk to work took him close to all the slayings and he worked with meat. Duh!

Charles Cross (Charles Lechmere)

This. Brilliant detective work by a Danish? Journalist.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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PalazioVecchio south pole 21 Mar 19 4.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays above board and kosher Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2019 12.14pm) Interesting choice of words when we talk of a man who worked as a butcher and who also butchered women for a hobby. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 21 Mar 19 4.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

above board and kosher

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2019 12.14pm)

Interesting choice of words when we talk of a man who worked as a butcher and who also butchered women for a hobby.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Stirlingsays 21 Mar 19 5.25pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Interesting choice of words when we talk of a man who worked as a butcher and who also butchered women for a hobby. Mmmm...true, purely a cultural and incidental phrase though....personally I'd ban the practice.....and I'm going with the DNA evidence on this one. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 5.26pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Mar 19 5.25pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Interesting choice of words when we talk of a man who worked as a butcher and who also butchered women for a hobby.

Mmmm...true, purely a cultural and incidental phrase though....personally I'd ban the practice.....and I'm going with the DNA evidence on this one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 5.26pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Mar 19 6.27pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio This. Brilliant detective work by a Danish? Journalist. Yes. I have the feeling that The Ripper myth has become a bit of an industry. No one was too keen to see the rather boring truth. The police had no motivation to expose their own feeble methods of the time.
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21 Mar 19 6.27pm

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

This. Brilliant detective work by a Danish? Journalist.

Yes.
I have the feeling that The Ripper myth has become a bit of an industry.
No one was too keen to see the rather boring truth.

The police had no motivation to expose their own feeble methods of the time.

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Mar 19 6.41pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Mmmm...true, purely a cultural and incidental phrase though....personally I'd ban the practice.....and I'm going with the DNA evidence on this one. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 5.26pm) That shawl has been contaminated by so many people that I have serious doubts about DNA tests. I would need to be entirely convinced by this because I believe that it is already an open and shut case with Lechmere.
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21 Mar 19 6.41pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mmmm...true, purely a cultural and incidental phrase though....personally I'd ban the practice.....and I'm going with the DNA evidence on this one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 5.26pm)

That shawl has been contaminated by so many people that I have serious doubts about DNA tests.

I would need to be entirely convinced by this because I believe that it is already an open and shut case with Lechmere.

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Stirlingsays 21 Mar 19 6.44pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger That shawl has been contaminated by so many people that I have serious doubts about DNA tests. I would need to be entirely convinced by this because I believe that it is already an open and shut case with Lechmere. Contamination sure, but with another suspect's DNA? But I'm not looking into it....I'll wait until the next film version comes out. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 6.47pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Mar 19 6.44pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That shawl has been contaminated by so many people that I have serious doubts about DNA tests.

I would need to be entirely convinced by this because I believe that it is already an open and shut case with Lechmere.

Contamination sure, but with another suspect's DNA?

But I'm not looking into it....I'll wait until the next film version comes out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 6.47pm)

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Badger11 Beckenham 21 Mar 19 6.58pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger That shawl has been contaminated by so many people that I have serious doubts about DNA tests. I would need to be entirely convinced by this because I believe that it is already an open and shut case with Lechmere. I saw that documentary as well. Yes a very good case for that person but then most of the ones that make it to a TV show are very plausible. I did have one issue with the program it is clear he lied in court and gave a false name so the program makers jumped to the conclusion he must be the ripper. There is an alternate theory I don't remember them exploring. He sees the body and is robbing it when he is seen by a copper and quickly switches to innocent bystander mode. We will never know the truth for sure. One more point
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Beckenham 21 Mar 19 6.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That shawl has been contaminated by so many people that I have serious doubts about DNA tests.

I would need to be entirely convinced by this because I believe that it is already an open and shut case with Lechmere.

I saw that documentary as well. Yes a very good case for that person but then most of the ones that make it to a TV show are very plausible.

I did have one issue with the program it is clear he lied in court and gave a false name so the program makers jumped to the conclusion he must be the ripper.

There is an alternate theory I don't remember them exploring. He sees the body and is robbing it when he is seen by a copper and quickly switches to innocent bystander mode. We will never know the truth for sure.

One more point

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Mar 19 8.43pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Contamination sure, but with another suspect's DNA? But I'm not looking into it....I'll wait until the next film version comes out. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 6.47pm) Of course one has to remain open to indisputable evidence but I will wait and see on this one. For me, the bloke standing over the body with the bloody knife is usually the killer.
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21 Mar 19 8.43pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Contamination sure, but with another suspect's DNA?

But I'm not looking into it....I'll wait until the next film version comes out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 6.47pm)

Of course one has to remain open to indisputable evidence but I will wait and see on this one.

For me, the bloke standing over the body with the bloody knife is usually the killer.

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Teddy Eagle 21 Mar 19 8.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger For me, the bloke standing over the body with the bloody knife is usually the killer. _______________________________________________________ So Quincy did it?
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