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dreamwaverider London 12 Feb 19 4.42am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Isn't the surrounding area mostly Asian? Why is it only a black issue? Now you mention it, I reckon the issue re fans is very similar e.g. a real minority of Asian followers. If locally there are lots of Asians then the question is the same, why don’t they come and follow their local team? I know we’ve got a young lad that plays for Taiwan on our books, Donkin, but correct me if I am wrong, I think he is our only Asian player.
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cryrst The garden of England 12 Feb 19 6.28am | |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Now you mention it, I reckon the issue re fans is very similar e.g. a real minority of Asian followers. If locally there are lots of Asians then the question is the same, why don’t they come and follow their local team? I know we’ve got a young lad that plays for Taiwan on our books, Donkin, but correct me if I am wrong, I think he is our only Asian player. Maybe just maybe they just dont like football.
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Midlands Eagle 12 Feb 19 8.02am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Cricket is the number game for people from the Indian sub continent
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Feb 19 10.17am | |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
What I don’t get at the Palace is the lack of black fans. I reckon there are no more than say 3% non white which is totally out of kilter with our playing staff say 40% and our non playing staff say 70%. Lots of reasons. We were never in the top league for long They still don’t go there much or at all
There might still be a view that their future might be difficult compared to young white boys/men at football so spending (wasting?) a fair sum of money might not be appealing. But Arsenal has and has lots of black fans for decades since the ‘80s. I might be completely wrong but I think a lot of regular black people don’t go in for ‘experiences’ or spending or wasting money on them. I don’t know if this still happens but in the championship a group of young black youth players used to sell their complimentary tickets outside Sainsbury’s. Tbh I don’t blame anybody for not going when I’m there watching a repeat of however many weeks before. I feel like I am the mug for going but you can’t beat being at the event. Watching on tv will never compete, but if you don’t know any different then it’s great. I expect ‘brickbats’ in my direction from anyone waiting to be offended on behalf of others.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Feb 19 10.27am | |
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Young black men/boys are probably now more distanced from the supporters at football. With the manufactured accents they sound completely different to the accents you here at football matches, so that is probably a further divide, apart from Chelsea, whose young away fans can strangely be heard sounding like Stormzy before rubbing shoulders with blatantly racist fans. All quite strange, but that’s money and glory for you. Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Feb 2019 10.39am)
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 12 Feb 19 11.31am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Young black men/boys are probably now more distanced from the supporters at football. With the manufactured accents they sound completely different to the accents you here at football matches, so that is probably a further divide, apart from Chelsea, whose young away fans can strangely be heard sounding like Stormzy before rubbing shoulders with blatantly racist fans. All quite strange, but that’s money and glory for you. Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Feb 2019 10.39am) What’s a manufactured accent? Aren’t all accents manufactured at one point or another?
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Feb 19 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
What’s a manufactured accent? Aren’t all accents manufactured at one point or another? Possibly, but it is rather ludicrous to hear white boys from London speaking with a quasi Jamaican accent. A bit sad really.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Feb 19 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
What’s a manufactured accent? Aren’t all accents manufactured at one point or another? Yes, when there wasn’t an accent already there. American and Australian are the more recent examples that spring to mind. Or it’s the type of air that causes the mouth to work and exercise in a different way to sound differently. Well this one was created by a few boys at the back of a classroom somewhere in London in the early ‘90s when there was already an accent in the area and it’s done them no favours. Hardly helping their employment prospects is it? Just creating more of a distance between them and whoever else they think is a great idea, but then it’s diffic to find employment that isn’t in places that this accent in usual. Fast food outlets and trainer shops.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Feb 19 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Possibly, but it is rather ludicrous to hear white boys from London speaking with a quasi Jamaican accent. A bit sad really. This particular accent started early ‘90s. Not sure which accent you’re referring to.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Feb 19 12.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
This particular accent started early ‘90s. Not sure which accent you’re referring to. Yes it has evolved in more recent times but certainly, there were White boys using Jamaican phrases and slipping into the occasional Jamaican accent, in a non mocking way, when I was at school in the '70s.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 12 Feb 19 12.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes, when there wasn’t an accent already there. American and Australian are the more recent examples that spring to mind. Or it’s the type of air that causes the mouth to work and exercise in a different way to sound differently. Well this one was created by a few boys at the back of a classroom somewhere in London in the early ‘90s when there was already an accent in the area and it’s done them no favours. Hardly helping their employment prospects is it? Just creating more of a distance between them and whoever else they think is a great idea, but then it’s diffic to find employment that isn’t in places that this accent in usual. Fast food outlets and trainer shops. There’s tons of accents and dialects which have started when an accent/dialect was already there; it doesn’t make any sense as a point - if not all (I’ve never seen anything on the type of air point you mentioned), the vast majority of accents are entirely manufactured. Most people adjust how they speak when it comes to employment; I certainly speak completely differently when I’m with mates, compared to at work.
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johnno42000 12 Feb 19 2.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
This particular accent started early ‘90s. Not sure which accent you’re referring to. Jim Davidson doing Chalky?
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