I mentioned this the other day in terms of the fine lines there are in the Premier League.

Ignoring for the moment RH's reluctance to use substitutes, he prepares the team well and he can't be responsible for those individual events that have cost us points. But there doesn't look to be any light at the end of the tunnel at the moment.

I certainly get where the OP is coming from. After 6 seasons in the Premier League we haven't progressed to the point where we look capable of avoiding an annual relegation battle. You could argue that it all adds to the excitement, typical Palace etc., but I for one hoped that this season would be different.

I still believe there will be three teams below us come the end of the season but at the moment I feel as tired and dejected as Roy looks at the moment.

Old, Ungifted and White

This is the longest we have spent in the top flight. That has to be good.
Sadly the club has owners who can't or won't spend enough to keep us safe without a perpetual struggle.
I feel like we will go down eventually, maybe this time, with the current regime and that rather predictable outcome makes it hard to be enthusiastic about Palace generally. At least we play some good football unlike the years of crap in the Championship but with the quality in the PL, we still lose far too often.

We will get a new main stand eventually but we will still have half a dump of a ground. It seems like achieving something satisfying is always at arm's length.

If we get relegated I might totally lose interest as I did in the mid eighties when we were total s***e but I won't know until it happens. I do know that time becomes more precious as you get older and I don't want to waste it on a club with no ambition. I have given them plenty of time already.

I work in an office that's festooned with TV screens permanently tuned to BBC News 24.

Guess what they're showing four times an hour?

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The Ferret
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celebrate the success of the Swedish welfare State in Malmo ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

The Love Boat?

I'm in exactly the same boat and feel exactly the same. The block E fiasco has ruined it for me, all the crap we've had to endure through the years. So like you nuts to them.

Twitter, message boards and Facebook give the tw@ts a voice. The kind of people you'd ignore in the pub.