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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 Sep 18 1.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The TUC have just come out with the brilliant idea that workers should only do a 4 days week. Have they seen the state of the high street? Companies are dropping like flies and before long many TUC members will be enjoying 7 days a week off. I am all in favour of flexible working hours but they expect to work less for the same pay. Well I want a date with Kylie and that aint going to happen either. This is a misrepresentation of what they said. They said that, if the benefits of automation are shared fairly with workers, then by the end of the century we should be able to benefit from working a 4 day week for the same money. Which should be a fairly uncontroversial statement.
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Badger11 Beckenham 24 Sep 18 1.59pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
I did some contract work for a firm that had recently floated having been privately owned for years. Staff were awarded shares partly based on years of service, and the IPO was at £2.15 - in 2012 the shares traded at over £17.00. Needless to say there were some who made some serious money. And good luck to them. I worked for a major US bank and in 2008 held £100,000 in shares which I paid for and saved for through a company scheme from the 1990s. Unfortunately by the end of 2008 the shares were worth 1 cent each. So bye bye to my glorious retirement. I kept them and today they are worth about £8,000 which is still less than what I originally bought for them for which was £10,500. You could argue that I should have sold them earlier but I didn't so there it is. I think share incentive schemes are a great idea just don't force companies into it.
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Deleted11 24 Sep 18 2.29pm | |
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It's all show and nothing else. The problem has always been globalisation.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Sep 18 3.07pm | |
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The John Lewis Group (Waitrose Etc) have had this sort of thing for many years now .....
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Badger11 Beckenham 24 Sep 18 3.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Jway89
It's all show and nothing else. The problem has always been globalisation. Very good point.
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cryrst The garden of England 24 Sep 18 9.05pm | |
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John mcdonald on the wireless this morning said it would start at 1% and annually to 10%.
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cryrst The garden of England 24 Sep 18 9.13pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
What? Have you ever worked in an FCA registered business? You're FORCED to do things all the time. For that matter have you ever worked in a company? They are all FORCED to pay tax every year. What a scandal. If you look at the level of business investment it's in the doldrums. Businesses are sitting on huge piles of cash and more and more they are repatriating huge amounts to shareholders. This is bad for the economy. It's one of the main reasons corporate productivity since 2008 has been so awful. Talking of productivity, had workers’ wages kept track with the rise in their productivity since 1990, the average employee would today be 20% better off. Or they could have three-day weekends all year long and still get paid the same. Furthermore, labour had been getting smaller and smaller slices of the pie: from 70% of national income in the 1970s to 55% now. By the reckoning of the Bank of England's chief economist, employees get proportionately less now than they did at the very outset of the Industrial Revolution in the 1770s.
Yup ive been employed for all but 4 of 35 years.
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Mapletree Croydon 24 Sep 18 10.34pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I think instead of shares wages should be linked from the top earners to the bottom. If the top bosses get a bonus the other employees get the same % of earnings. Another person who should read the new corporate governance code. In LSE listed companies you should not give rises to top executives in excess of average rises within your company. Edited by Mapletree (24 Sep 2018 10.36pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 25 Sep 18 5.56am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Another person who should read the new corporate governance code. In LSE listed companies you should not give rises to top executives in excess of average rises within your company. Edited by Mapletree (24 Sep 2018 10.36pm) Rises or bonuses In % or in pound notes.
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YT Oxford 25 Sep 18 10.53am | |
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Originally posted by becky
Fine idea, taking a share of the profits as dividends during the good times, as long as, like any other recipient of a dividend, they are prepared to put money back into the company during hard times........ I totally get where you are coming from, Becky, however (pedantically perhaps) shareholders aren’t expected to put money into their company during hard times. Hard times are likely to result in a fall in share price or a cut in dividend - most likely both - but there’s no obligation to inject more cash. In the scheme that’s being proposed, I imagine that a fall in dividend is likely to prompt demands for higher wages so as to make up the difference in income. Just what a struggling company doesn’t need!
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 25 Sep 18 12.25pm | |
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Sorry but this is just another corporate stealth tax. EE's are allowed a small dividend all else goes to Corbyn once a proposed low cap is reached.
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Kempez anywhere but here 25 Sep 18 1.38pm | |
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I think the biggest issue with this is it could further decrease our manufacturing industries as costs rise and products can often be made for less abroad, especially with the uncertainty regarding brexit as there is no clear plan 6 months out. I do think everyone should have a living wage but how do you define this, if you spend it on say Football (as a lot of us do) is that to be covered, should alcohol/cigarettes, sky, latest phone etc be included? Where I live there is a mix of social and private houses, the 'luxury' goods are much more prevalent in the social housing rather than private. I think it is a very tough job to make it fair for everyone from the position we are currently in. It has to be more rewarding to work than not unless circumstances (children, illness, disability etc) mean you cannot work and you should then be fully supported. No Idea how you can achieve that though!
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