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  Hrolf The Ganger  30 Apr 18 10.39am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
If you're talking about ERG and the mogglodites I totally agree with you. But this is the Amber Rudd thread, so I think you posted in the wrong place. Spoken like a true Lefty.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 30 Apr 18 10.41am |
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As predicated Javid is the new Home Secretary. If nothing else at least it stops Abbott becoming the first BAME Home Secretary. The job is a poison chalice and the graveyard of many promising careers from all parties. Careful what you wish for Javid. The Home Secretary is the whipping boy / girl of the press and everything gets blamed on them sometimes unfairly. Whereas the role of Foreign Secretary is often the stepping stone to the big chair. It's easy to swan around the world meeting foreign leaders and not being bogged down by detail. I cannot understand why the role is not split up, it is too big a job for one person. We do have junior ministers for immigration and justice but when the shinola hits the fan they get ignored and the media goes straight to the HS. Time for reform I think.
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Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 30 Apr 18 1.12pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Pointless indeed. This all stemmed from an innocuous question which if honestly answered would not even have made the papers. There is nothing wrong in having targets for removing lawbreakers. She then continued to insist she did not know even as the evidence mounted against her until the smoking gun was produced. How do you know a politician is lying? Their lips are moving. Well Labour have their head but it does all seem rather pointless. I would give it to Sajid Javid his intervention didn't help so If I were May I say tell him you feel so strongly so sort if out. That should pay him back. I don't understand why they panicked and felt they needed to lie. Every department needs targets in order to measure their work. There's nothing wrong with them. She engineered her own fate.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 30 Apr 18 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
I don't understand why they panicked and felt they needed to lie. Every department needs targets in order to measure their work. There's nothing wrong with them. She engineered her own fate. Depends what the target is. In this case it was stupid and created misery for people who were perfectly entitled to be here. The target was wrong and has been scrapped, rightly so. Rudd had to go.
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| Sportyteacher London 30 Apr 18 2.27pm |
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Now that Rudd 'The Human Shield' to May has been forced to go, what do folk say to the prospect that the media will keep digging away (with help from further leaks from Home Office staff) that Prime Minister's position is untenable = cue Conservative leadership contest with ministerially experienced and unifying influence of Sajid Javid ensuring that he takes over the role. Conservatives would surely be daft to risk all by going for General Election with a thumping predicted in Thursday's local elections to add to May's woes - hopefully voters will remember which political party systematically passed down cuts to UK councils that has resulted in further deterioration of services etc.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 30 Apr 18 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Now that Rudd 'The Human Shield' to May has been forced to go, what do folk say to the prospect that the media will keep digging away (with help from further leaks from Home Office staff) that Prime Minister's position is untenable = cue Conservative leadership contest with ministerially experienced and unifying influence of Sajid Javid ensuring that he takes over the role. Conservatives would surely be daft to risk all by going for General Election with a thumping predicted in Thursday's local elections to add to May's woes - hopefully voters will remember which political party systematically passed down cuts to UK councils that has resulted in further deterioration of services etc. But don't worry about the state of British politics when a small issue like this can make a Home Secretary resign.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 30 Apr 18 3.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But don't worry about the state of British politics when a small issue like this can make a Home Secretary resign. Small to you. Not to lots of other people though. Don't forget the world doesn't revolve around you.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Apr 18 4.04pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Small to you. Not to lots of other people though. Don't forget the world doesn't revolve around you. He's part of the majority in the country who aren't concerned by lefty talking points. The Tory party at the moment is playing the left's social justice game. It needs to stop being scared of the insult labels of the left and actually stand up for the majority. It's amusing that the 'oppressor/oppressed' Labour party get away the slogan 'for the many not the few' when in reality they are out to screw the majority in terms of social justice and provide 'protected classes' for minorities.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Apr 18 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Now that Rudd 'The Human Shield' to May has been forced to go, what do folk say to the prospect that the media will keep digging away (with help from further leaks from Home Office staff) that Prime Minister's position is untenable = cue Conservative leadership contest with ministerially experienced and unifying influence of Sajid Javid ensuring that he takes over the role. Conservatives would surely be daft to risk all by going for General Election with a thumping predicted in Thursday's local elections to add to May's woes - hopefully voters will remember which political party systematically passed down cuts to UK councils that has resulted in further deterioration of services etc. How on earth is 'Sajid Javid' a 'unifying influence'? He's another remainer cuck like May.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 30 Apr 18 4.25pm |
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How to get rid of Mrs May? They will have to get her before a powerful committee as happened to Mrs.Rudd. Forensic examination of her record as Home Secretary. A policy of insitutionalised racialism IMO. The victims all black or hadn't you noticed.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 30 Apr 18 5.06pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Small to you. Not to lots of other people though. Don't forget the world doesn't revolve around you. Really? It is a relatively small affair affecting a small number of people.
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| Face in Wetherspoons 30 Apr 18 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by becky
....but the alternative would be Diane 'don't know my arse from my elbow where figures are concerned' Abbott as Home Secretary Rock and a hard place anyone Comrade Abbott was questioned by Piers Morgan on the Good Morning Britain TV Programme today and when asked about the Rudd resignation she blurted out all the old stuff that she has been regurgitating recently as to why the Home Secretary had to go. When Morgan asked her a direct question as to whether her Party had a Policy as to whether illegals would be subject to targets for removal or should be allowed to stay in the UK, she became somewhat confused. After Morgan made several attempts to get a straight answer from her without any luck he gave up. Absolutely no confidence in this Shadow Home Secretary I am afraid. Rudd, even if she did slip up over Windrush, was articulate and not afraid to speak up on issues.
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