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 cryrst  The garden of England 01 May 23 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
There is zero voting fraud in the UK, I think 1 case only at the 2019 election. What we are seeing now is the government trying to discourage young and minority groups they see as not voting conservative, from voting. If you are 16-25 and have a photo railcard, you will not be able to vote, if you are 60+ and have an oyster card, you will. "The new voter ID requirement will stop many young people from voting - and it seems that is by design, not by accident. "The government has given older voters, who are more likely to vote Conservative, a large range of acceptable forms of ID, while providing very few options for young people. The conservatives are desperate. For months up to 17th April anyone who would be of voting age on voting day had the option and opportunity to get an ID which would allow them to vote. If they didn’t then they arnt bothered about voting. Some people get vexed on behalf of others and generally it’s the left leaning people !
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EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 03 May 23 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
There is zero voting fraud in the UK, I think 1 case only at the 2019 election. What we are seeing now is the government trying to discourage young and minority groups they see as not voting conservative, from voting. If you are 16-25 and have a photo railcard, you will not be able to vote, if you are 60+ and have an oyster card, you will. "The new voter ID requirement will stop many young people from voting - and it seems that is by design, not by accident. "The government has given older voters, who are more likely to vote Conservative, a large range of acceptable forms of ID, while providing very few options for young people. The conservatives are desperate. It's so transparent it's unbelievable. And yet none of the champions of free speech on the right seem to have any issue with voter suppression, as long as it's in their favour. Who needs principles.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 23 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It's so transparent it's unbelievable. And yet none of the champions of free speech on the right seem to have any issue with voter suppression, as long as it's in their favour. Who needs principles. I will ask the question again. If somebody doesn't have any id then how did they end up on the electoral roll? To be on the electoral roll you should have to prove who you are and your nationality so the council can record which elections you are entitled to vote in. If they are not demanding id then they are not doing their job properly if they are then what's the issue?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 03 May 23 6.29pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I will ask the question again. If somebody doesn't have any id then how did they end up on the electoral roll? To be on the electoral roll you should have to prove who you are and your nationality so the council can record which elections you are entitled to vote in. If they are not demanding id then they are not doing their job properly if they are then what's the issue? I don't recall ever providing photo ID to be on the electoral roll - I'm fairly sure I provided my NI number and name/address and that was it.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 23 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I don't recall ever providing photo ID to be on the electoral roll - I'm fairly sure I provided my NI number and name/address and that was it. Exactly. Using a National insurance number is a terrible idea there are literally millions of fraudulent ones out there but some councils don't care that the voter is not entitled to be in this country or is not who he says he is or is entitled to be here but is not a British citizen so only allowed to vote in certain elections. These checks should be done properly by councils before elections so I wonder if those that are complaining don't actually have an id that matches the entry on the electoral roll.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 03 May 23 6.47pm |
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Free Speech........the thread is about Free Speech
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| Stirlingsays 04 May 23 8.44am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Free Speech........the thread is about Free Speech It's somewhat ironic that the greatest threats to free speech within the modern west turned out to be the social liberals. Social liberalism in practical real world terms is largely a well funded conglomerate of NGOs and lobbyists who now feed an idealogically similar and cucked raft of mainstream media their talking points and even write policy agendas for politicians.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 8.57am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's somewhat ironic that the greatest threats to free speech within the modern west turned out to be the social liberals. Social liberalism in practical real world terms is largely a well funded conglomerate of NGOs and lobbyists who now feed an idealogically similar and cucked raft of mainstream media their talking points and even write policy agendas for politicians. You have some very strange ideas. There's more opportunity these days for everyone to express their opinion than ever there has been before. What you are complaining about is that the MSM don't share the views that you personally hold. Which for me is perfectly understandable. Doesn't stop you, or anyone else, from expressing them. They find ways out and if people want to hear them, they will.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 04 May 23 1.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You have some very strange ideas. There's more opportunity these days for everyone to express their opinion than ever there has been before. What you are complaining about is that the MSM don't share the views that you personally hold. Which for me is perfectly understandable. Doesn't stop you, or anyone else, from expressing them. They find ways out and if people want to hear them, they will. try that in ireland and enjoy some jail-time. The new legislation makes us look like The Soviet Union.
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Teddy Eagle  04 May 23 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
try that in ireland and enjoy some jail-time. The new legislation makes us look like The Soviet Union.
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 04 May 23 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That is very, very scary.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 04 May 23 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
That is very, very scary. Ireland has gone from the most Conservative Catholic country to the most Radical Liberal Left hellhole in the blink of an eye. and all enforced with bully-boy tactics. Freedom of speech ? forget it.
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