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Stirlingsays 07 Apr 18 10.11am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle we all pretty much know how it happened. if he had used his brain, he probably would have realised that his actions would have put him behind bars, ironically in a place where 20% are muslims who dont really care for the law & always hunt in packs. I don't know that, but if you are right then actors within the state has been complicit or negligent in this guy's murder. I very much hope that this isn't the case. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Apr 18 10.11am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

we all pretty much know how it happened.

if he had used his brain, he probably would have realised that his actions would have put him behind bars, ironically in a place where 20% are muslims who dont really care for the law & always hunt in packs.

I don't know that, but if you are right then actors within the state has been complicit or negligent in this guy's murder.

I very much hope that this isn't the case.

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Stirlingsays 07 Apr 18 10.22am
Originally posted by Park Road [Link] I think this is the kind of stuff TR, is fighting against. Video showing sharia law being taught in UK Islamic schools Our politicians enabled this. Can you imagine how much goes on that isn't captured on camera? It's why many within this community have an integration problem. I wonder what happened after this footage was released. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 10.25am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Apr 18 10.22am

Originally posted by Park Road

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I think this is the kind of stuff TR, is fighting against.

Video showing sharia law being taught in UK Islamic schools

Our politicians enabled this.

Can you imagine how much goes on that isn't captured on camera? It's why many within this community have an integration problem.

I wonder what happened after this footage was released.

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 07 Apr 18 10.27am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle we all pretty much know how it happened. if he had used his brain, he probably would have realised that his actions would have put him behind bars, ironically in a place where 20% are muslims who dont really care for the law & always hunt in packs. Yep, you're not far off. 15% of the prison population is Muslim. They make up 4% of the UK general population aged 15+ (2016). Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Apr 2018 10.30am)
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Beckenham 07 Apr 18 10.27am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

we all pretty much know how it happened.

Yep, you're not far off. 15% of the prison population is Muslim. They make up 4% of the UK general population aged 15+ (2016).

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 12.39pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Yep, you're not far off. 15% of the prison population is Muslim. They make up 4% of the UK general population aged 15+ (2016). Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Apr 2018 10.30am) its more than the stated 15%, you have the ones who have converted but not changed their religion, and further more converted for protection reasons. the person who carried out the attack would have been doing so to pay off a £30 spice debt or similar. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Yep, you're not far off. 15% of the prison population is Muslim. They make up 4% of the UK general population aged 15+ (2016).

Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Apr 2018 10.30am)

its more than the stated 15%, you have the ones who have converted but not changed their religion, and further more converted for protection reasons.

the person who carried out the attack would have been doing so to pay off a £30 spice debt or similar.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Apr 18 2.07pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I don't know that, but if you are right then actors within the state has been complicit or negligent in this guy's murder. I very much hope that this isn't the case. But you just know that it is. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 07 Apr 18 2.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't know that, but if you are right then actors within the state has been complicit or negligent in this guy's murder.

I very much hope that this isn't the case.

But you just know that it is.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 9.52pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt But you just know that it is. problem is cucking, staff dont run the prison service the cons do..thats why i left. the only reason things are calm [sic] is because the most influential prisoners get perks for keeping things calm. there is no way staff could have stopped this happening as their is only 3 staff to roughly 100 prisoners & no cctv in cells/showers etc. the prison service is proper f***ed, kids earning 23k p/a looking after career criminals! ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 9.52pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

But you just know that it is.

problem is cucking, staff dont run the prison service the cons do..thats why i left.

the only reason things are calm [sic] is because the most influential prisoners get perks for keeping things calm.

there is no way staff could have stopped this happening as their is only 3 staff to roughly 100 prisoners & no cctv in cells/showers etc.

the prison service is proper f***ed, kids earning 23k p/a looking after career criminals!

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Stirlingsays 07 Apr 18 10.10pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle problem is cucking, staff dont run the prison service the cons do..thats why i left. the only reason things are calm [sic] is because the most influential prisoners get perks for keeping things calm. there is no way staff could have stopped this happening as their is only 3 staff to roughly 100 prisoners & no cctv in cells/showers etc. the prison service is proper f***ed, kids earning 23k p/a looking after career criminals! How on this non existent (probably) god's earth did we get into this situation? If they have just put him into the general prison population where there are over 15 percent of Muslims....I'm speechless. That would be so stupid as to give thought to complicity. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Apr 18 10.10pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

problem is cucking, staff dont run the prison service the cons do..thats why i left.

the only reason things are calm [sic] is because the most influential prisoners get perks for keeping things calm.

there is no way staff could have stopped this happening as their is only 3 staff to roughly 100 prisoners & no cctv in cells/showers etc.

the prison service is proper f***ed, kids earning 23k p/a looking after career criminals!

How on this non existent (probably) god's earth did we get into this situation?

If they have just put him into the general prison population where there are over 15 percent of Muslims....I'm speechless.

That would be so stupid as to give thought to complicity.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 10.47pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays How on this non existent (probably) god's earth did we get into this situation? If they have just put him into the general prison population where there are over 15 percent of Muslims....I'm speechless. That would be so stupid as to give thought to complicity. problem is, lets say you have a prison with 8 wings holding 800 prisoners, then 1 wing will be VP prisoners, and 700 will be gen pop. the guy in question could have saved his life by asking to be put onto the rule 45 wing (VP wing) the problem is that there is a massive stigma attached to that in the prison world and he propably tried to hide his offence. probably 10% of prisoners will “hide out” on gen pop wings because they dont want to be called a “VP” its very easy to blame X Y & Z but in reality its the government cutting budgets that causes these issues ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 10.47pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How on this non existent (probably) god's earth did we get into this situation?

If they have just put him into the general prison population where there are over 15 percent of Muslims....I'm speechless.

That would be so stupid as to give thought to complicity.

problem is, lets say you have a prison with 8 wings holding 800 prisoners, then 1 wing will be VP prisoners, and 700 will be gen pop.

the guy in question could have saved his life by asking to be put onto the rule 45 wing (VP wing) the problem is that there is a massive stigma attached to that in the prison world and he propably tried to hide his offence.

probably 10% of prisoners will “hide out” on gen pop wings because they dont want to be called a “VP”

its very easy to blame X Y & Z but in reality its the government cutting budgets that causes these issues

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 10.55pm
the stigma is amazing...a prisoner can beat his wife to a inch of her life & be fine on a normal prison wing. for some reason, prisoners have this moral compass [sic] that means it is fine to beat your partner within an inch of their life, but a sexual offence is the work of the devil...its a way of justifiying your offence. in my eyes, an offence is & offence but prisoners need to have some moral high ground to hold onto ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 10.55pm

the stigma is amazing...a prisoner can beat his wife to a inch of her life & be fine on a normal prison wing.

for some reason, prisoners have this moral compass [sic] that means it is fine to beat your partner within an inch of their life, but a sexual offence is the work of the devil...its a way of justifiying your offence.

in my eyes, an offence is & offence but prisoners need to have some moral high ground to hold onto

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Stirlingsays 07 Apr 18 10.57pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle problem is, lets say you have a prison with 8 wings holding 800 prisoners, then 1 wing will be VP prisoners, and 700 will be gen pop. the guy in question could have saved his life by asking to be put onto the rule 45 wing (VP wing) the problem is that there is a massive stigma attached to that in the prison world and he propably tried to hide his offence. probably 10% of prisoners will “hide out” on gen pop wings because they dont want to be called a “VP” its very easy to blame X Y & Z but in reality its the government cutting budgets that causes these issues In that's the case here then this judge completely failed in their duty of care by not insisting that this guy went into a separate wing......I'm assuming that this is the judge's decision....If not then whoever is actually responsible. The state put him in there....they have a responsibility to understand the risk assessment and act upon common sense. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 10.57pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Apr 18 10.57pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

problem is, lets say you have a prison with 8 wings holding 800 prisoners, then 1 wing will be VP prisoners, and 700 will be gen pop.

probably 10% of prisoners will “hide out” on gen pop wings because they dont want to be called a “VP”

its very easy to blame X Y & Z but in reality its the government cutting budgets that causes these issues

In that's the case here then this judge completely failed in their duty of care by not insisting that this guy went into a separate wing......I'm assuming that this is the judge's decision....If not then whoever is actually responsible.

The state put him in there....they have a responsibility to understand the risk assessment and act upon common sense.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 10.57pm)

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 11.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays In that's the case here then this judge completely failed in their duty of care by not insisting that this guy went into a separate wing......I'm assuming that this is the judge's decision....If not then whoever is actually responsible. The state put him in there....they have a responsibility to understand the risk assessment and act upon common sense. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 10.57pm) i think you need to wake up & smell the coffee...it is the prisoners responsibility to do that himself, you talk of “the state” he put himself in prison lets not pretend anybody else made him put pork products on a mosque. lets remember that anybody with a rational gene in their body would not do that...it was his own choice. dont break the law...dont go to prison...simples ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Apr 18 11.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The state put him in there....they have a responsibility to understand the risk assessment and act upon common sense.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 10.57pm)

i think you need to wake up & smell the coffee...it is the prisoners responsibility to do that himself, you talk of “the state” he put himself in prison lets not pretend anybody else made him put pork products on a mosque.

lets remember that anybody with a rational gene in their body would not do that...it was his own choice.

dont break the law...dont go to prison...simples

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Stirlingsays 07 Apr 18 11.30pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle i think you need to wake up & smell the coffee...it is the prisoners responsibility to do that himself, you talk of “the state” he put himself in prison lets not pretend anybody else made him put pork products on a mosque. lets remember that anybody with a rational gene in their body would not do that...it was his own choice. dont break the law...dont go to prison...simples I completely disagree with you. Even if you are a prisoner the state has a responsibility to keep you out of harm's way if that harm is obvious in advance. This was very predictable. Also people are breaking the law every day and have multiple anti social crime reps and they don't go to prison. This crime was non violent, it was deserving of community service and a fine, not prison time. Let's put it like this, if my view held sway it's very likely there would be one less dead man. (unless his death was unconnected to being inside) Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 11.32pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Apr 18 11.30pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

lets remember that anybody with a rational gene in their body would not do that...it was his own choice.

dont break the law...dont go to prison...simples

I completely disagree with you. Even if you are a prisoner the state has a responsibility to keep you out of harm's way if that harm is obvious in advance.

This was very predictable.

Also people are breaking the law every day and have multiple anti social crime reps and they don't go to prison.

This crime was non violent, it was deserving of community service and a fine, not prison time.

Let's put it like this, if my view held sway it's very likely there would be one less dead man. (unless his death was unconnected to being inside)

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 11.32pm)

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