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 Lakeview  Lincoln 05 Mar 18 1.10pm |
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But,in answer to previous poster saying religious clashes are a curse in our world, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot & Stalin were not motivated by religion and are among the worst mass-murderers of all time; the issue is surely humans and their tendency towards acts of selfishness, tribalism and cruelty. That's what I tend to believe anyway.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 05 Mar 18 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by Lakeview
But,in answer to previous poster saying religious clashes are a curse in our world, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot & Stalin were not motivated by religion and are among the worst mass-murderers of all time; the issue is surely humans and their tendency towards acts of selfishness, tribalism and cruelty. That's what I tend to believe anyway. I think you'll find that Hitler was a little peeved with the Jewish.
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Park Road  05 Mar 18 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by Lakeview
But,in answer to previous poster saying religious clashes are a curse in our world, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot & Stalin were not motivated by religion and are among the worst mass-murderers of all time; the issue is surely humans and their tendency towards acts of selfishness, tribalism and cruelty. That's what I tend to believe anyway.
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 05 Mar 18 3.02pm |
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Wish our very own Christian up front would stop thinking about others all the time.
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 05 Mar 18 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug
As Bob Marley said:- " There ain't no hiding place from the Father of Creation" Bob Marley could/should still be alive today. He was convinced that cutting his toe off (which would almost certainly have saved his life) was against his religious beliefs.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Mar 18 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by Park Road
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 05 Mar 18 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
Wish our very own Christian up front would stop thinking about others all the time. yes, and when defenders foul him, he turns the other knee
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| Park Road 05 Mar 18 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Just like his legacy Edited by Park Road (05 Mar 2018 4.05pm)
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chateauferret  06 Mar 18 2.28am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Religion is poison. It gives people mental illness. And it frequently makes them behave abominably. and look at all the fringe areas on the Planet where groups of different religions collide ? Israel/palestine i'll spell this out again in case it wasn't clear. People who profess hate are not Christians. They may go to church, they may recite the Bible, they may claim to have seen God, they may claim to do good works of whatever kind, but if they hate, they are not Christians. That is because Jesus Christ taught us that hate is wrong. Hate is not compatible with being a Christian (or with following most other religions), Hate is the work of the Devil. They can dress it up however they want, but if the hate, they are following the Devil. Not Christ. The world is full of soi-disant Christians who justify hate, bigotry, racism, homophobia, aggression, theft, even murder, by reference to God. They are not Christians. They may say they are, but they are not. If you are a Christian, you do not hate anyone. Except of course Manche*click* NO CARRIER
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| Stirlingsays 06 Mar 18 3.00am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
i'll spell this out again in case it wasn't clear. People who profess hate are not Christians. They may go to church, they may recite the Bible, they may claim to have seen God, they may claim to do good works of whatever kind, but if they hate, they are not Christians. That is because Jesus Christ taught us that hate is wrong. Hate is not compatible with being a Christian (or with following most other religions), Hate is the work of the Devil. They can dress it up however they want, but if the hate, they are following the Devil. Not Christ. The world is full of soi-disant Christians who justify hate, bigotry, racism, homophobia, aggression, theft, even murder, by reference to God. They are not Christians. They may say they are, but they are not. Except of course Manche*click* NO CARRIER I appreciate the sentiment but tha is a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy......Jesus didn't exactly like the money lenders in the temple now did he? Jesus's message is mainly about love....I concede that....but 'hate' is in there too. He also implicitly said that if you hoard and love money you are going to hell......I'm not sure that a sentence that condemns someone to an eternity of hellfire is exactly being nice......It renders words like 'hate' to be meaningless.....I mean you support the torture of someone for eternity? Also Jesus supported the splitting up of families based upon whether they would believe in him or not. That one comment alone has caused much harm and hate. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Mar 2018 3.02am)
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| Park Road 06 Mar 18 6.17am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
i'll spell this out again in case it wasn't clear. People who profess hate are not Christians. They may go to church, they may recite the Bible, they may claim to have seen God, they may claim to do good works of whatever kind, but if they hate, they are not Christians. That is because Jesus Christ taught us that hate is wrong. Hate is not compatible with being a Christian (or with following most other religions), Hate is the work of the Devil. They can dress it up however they want, but if the hate, they are following the Devil. Not Christ. The world is full of soi-disant Christians who justify hate, bigotry, racism, homophobia, aggression, theft, even murder, by reference to God. They are not Christians. They may say they are, but they are not. If you are a Christian, you do not hate anyone. Except of course Manche*click* NO CARRIER Hate and love are perfectly normal emotions to have. Somehow, if you have the first you can't be a Christian. This is called religious logic. is highly hypocritical to say that Jesus gives people a positive self-image if he also tells them they deserve to be tortured forever. His wise all seeing, father who decided to have his own son, a 'good man' by all accounts, brutally tortured and murdered so that 'bad' people could be let of their crimes?
Edited by Park Road (06 Mar 2018 6.18am)
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| chateauferret 06 Mar 18 7.49am |
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Originally posted by Park Road
Hate and love are perfectly normal emotions to have. Somehow, if you have the first you can't be a Christian. This is called religious logic. is highly hypocritical to say that Jesus gives people a positive self-image if he also tells them they deserve to be tortured forever. His wise all seeing, father who decided to have his own son, a 'good man' by all accounts, brutally tortured and murdered so that 'bad' people could be let of their crimes? God (who doesn't exist)clearly is a hateful, sadistic tyrant. Edited by Park Road (06 Mar 2018 6.18am) Of course we all feel negative emotions. That's a different thing from the kind of continuous prejudice and fear that drives bigotry, which is what I am talking about here. The kind of idiot that says things like "God said buggery is a sin therefore I as a Christian won't have a poofter in my house". It's quite different from say not liking someone because he calls you names. All the hate I seem to see on here is coming from the atheists. Jesus on the Cross said to the robber hanging next to him, "This day shalt thou be with Me in Paradise". It was Man who chose to put Him there. (Lots of atheists think Christians think God determines everything; actually, Man has free choice to follow His will or not). Edited by chateauferret (06 Mar 2018 8.09am)
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