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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Feb 18 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sure, at expense they will weed them out....... while a percentage of those that they should be attracting will take one look at those videos and laugh.

Like I say, I presented two videos.......one of them was an army recruitment video designed to attract the kind of people you need in an army.

Most of the people 'they should be attracting' will no doubt be thinking of joining. I doubt that video puts of years of thought of doing so. It no doubt takes lots of thought and consideration, not an impulse decision. I think the trade aspect to it should be in there though.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Feb 18 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Most of the people 'they should be attracting' will no doubt be thinking of joining. I doubt that video puts of years of thought of doing so. It no doubt takes lots of thought and consideration, not an impulse decision. I think the trade aspect to it should be in there though.

The feminisation of our society with its attacks on masculinity have had real world affects.

I'm sorry...You obviously aren't that aware of recruitment numbers and what's currently happening.

As for your thought....that if someone puts in lots of thought and consideration the outcome is going to be sensible.

I'm sorry, your trust in the process is far larger than mine. As a teenager who tried to join the Army in the eighties I would have been repelled by adverts like these. As a teacher who regularly recommended the military when asked by teenagers I thought suitable I couldn't have recommended that they watched this.

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elgrande Flag bedford 01 Feb 18 7.46pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

My son says the standard of recruits that are coming through at the moment are just not up to scratch.

he is a section leader.therefore he leads in battle and training.

both him and his mates say that there is always a better standard of recruit when there are conflicts we are involved in.

sad state of affairs but there you are,he should know.

 


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.TUX. Flag 01 Feb 18 8.02pm

Originally posted by elgrande

My son says the standard of recruits that are coming through at the moment are just not up to scratch.

he is a section leader.therefore he leads in battle and training.

both him and his mates say that there is always a better standard of recruit when there are conflicts we are involved in.

sad state of affairs but there you are,he should know.

I believe him.

Sadly.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Feb 18 8.34pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

My son says the standard of recruits that are coming through at the moment are just not up to scratch.

he is a section leader.therefore he leads in battle and training.

both him and his mates say that there is always a better standard of recruit when there are conflicts we are involved in.

sad state of affairs but there you are,he should know.

Can you expand on this?

And is it anything to do with the advert? What does he think of it?

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 01 Feb 18 9.24pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Can you expand on this?

And is it anything to do with the advert? What does he think of it?

expand in what way,and the advert just goes over their heads to be honest.
I think you have to be a certain type to be in the "services"
not saying my son is a psychopath or anything like that,but he enjoys the army,the life, the travelling (although he misses the Palace when he is away.).
But from what he says you have to have a certain hardness about you.
he is off to kenya next week then Nigeria,so he gets about.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Feb 18 11.42pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

expand in what way,and the advert just goes over their heads to be honest.
I think you have to be a certain type to be in the "services"
not saying my son is a psychopath or anything like that,but he enjoys the army,the life, the travelling (although he misses the Palace when he is away.).
But from what he says you have to have a certain hardness about you.
he is off to kenya next week then Nigeria,so he gets about.

How are the recruits not up to standard? Could be many things or just one in general.

The advert goes over whose heads?

I don't doubt you need a hardness for it. That's a given, and always has been. It's the opening up to your same rank that's what I see this being about.

 


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Mr Fenandes Flag 02 Feb 18 9.14am Send a Private Message to Mr Fenandes Add Mr Fenandes as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Your question hasn't anything to do with the contention.

Producing a battlegroup that wins battles.....which is about killing people....has nothing to do with WW1 or WW2. This is about what the so called 'leaders' in charge of producing messages to our youth are doing....the messages they are putting out to the very important youth willing to join the military.

Those generations of the past were capable of winning battles and wars however that's about the height of what WW1 and WW2 have to do with my post.

We have upstanding youth today...but these are the messages they are getting from our military....I compared it to countries that aren't affected with this ridiculous cultural weakness.

The Chinese video makes you cringe because....based on your posts you are a beta male who would be about as useful as a pint of yoghurt in an actual war.


Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Feb 2018 1.10pm)


I was in South Sudan for the civil war last year JSYK although arguing this on an internet forum with a complete stranger is as beta as it gets so plz help me be a real man and teach me your wayz Alpha-dog

You righties love the army but you don't give a s*** how the soldiers are treated, it's so contradictory I can't even argue with it. How we treated our soldiers (shootin' em in the face) after "cowardice" (a lack of understanding how the human brain actually works) was disgusting and even though our ad for the army was limp-wristed, it's nice to see there is at least the pretence we care about people we send out to keep us and others safe.


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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Feb 18 9.33am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Fenandes

I was in South Sudan for the civil war last year JSYK although arguing this on an internet forum with a complete stranger is as beta as it gets so plz help me be a real man and teach me your wayz Alpha-dog

You righties love the army but you don't give a s*** how the soldiers are treated, it's so contradictory I can't even argue with it. How we treated our soldiers (shootin' em in the face) after "cowardice" (a lack of understanding how the human brain actually works) was disgusting and even though our ad for the army was limp-wristed, it's nice to see there is at least the pretence we care about people we send out to keep us and others safe.


Edited by Mr Fenandes (02 Feb 2018 9.18am)

Well, while I have no means of knowing the truth of your claim my observation is purely based upon the manner of your posts.

I reject the claim that the British military has.....since the second world war not cared sufficiently for its personnel. I find that claim purest emotive unrealistic nonsense.

Essentially, while you acknowledge the 'limp wristed' impression of the advert, the end result is that by encouraging this change you advocate for a weaker British military by supporting its encouragement of unsuitable people.

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 02 Feb 18 2.39pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How are the recruits not up to standard? Could be many things or just one in general.

The advert goes over whose heads?

I don't doubt you need a hardness for it. That's a given, and always has been. It's the opening up to your same rank that's what I see this being about.

In many ways,the training the physical part,as well as silly things like hygiene.
they have to keep their rooms/barracks in good order,and have decent personal hygiene standards that a lot have,nt.
and I think you would be surprised how much they do open up to each other,nothing like nearly being killed together to get the mind active.

 


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Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 02 Feb 18 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I don't like the title but the army is a bit like a family isn't it? Especially for young men who have left home and may not have had much experience of life.
On another note I saw the ads designed to attract muslims into the army - I didn't like them.
I don't like the film style of the adverts now. Preferred the ones where people jump out of armoured cars. I was in the army several years. The closest I got to an armoured car was lying down next to a column of tanks as it trundled past on Salibury plain and looking in a captured Iraqi one.
As for winning wars we all seem to have missed the point of WW2. The highest trained, motivated, co-ordinated and best equipied army of WW2 lost to the mass hordes with poorly made equipment of the Allies. Mainly the Soviets. We seem to think that well-trained soldiers and better equipment guarantee us a win, in reality China or even North-Korea could probably overrun most western armies within a few days. Not because we are rubbish or we have emotions, but because there are millions of them and a couple of hundred thousand of us.

Very sound post.

It's why NATO has a first-use / first-strike nuclear doctrine.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Feb 18 10.32pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Very sound post.

It's why NATO has a first-use / first-strike nuclear doctrine.


Only China and India have claimed no first use.

As for the UK Michael Fallon in 2017 confirmed that the UK would use nuclear weapons in a 'pre-emptive initial strike' in 'the most extreme circumstances'.....which is no first use in all but name.

If you are Corbyn....it's no use at all.....come on in and rule over us....just no hurty.

 


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