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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Dec 17 4.19pm | |
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Originally posted by steph_eagle
Maybe there's a reason some children don't like using the toilets during breaks. I never used the toilets in breaks at school as was a quiet girl and there were always older girls in there which scared me. Obviously that isn't the case in all situations but that's why I can't see problems with it. Even now I hate using toilets when others are in there. If teachers are made aware of any issues, they're pretty good at using common sense. I've had kids they needed to go a lot, I had a note from the parents, no problem whatsoever. Funny thing was, the kid hated leaving the lesson. All about communication.
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Misseagle London 11 Dec 17 4.24pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If teachers are made aware of any issues, they're pretty good at using common sense. I've had kids they needed to go a lot, I had a note from the parents, no problem whatsoever. Funny thing was, the kid hated leaving the lesson. All about communication. Kids should go at break or cross their legs, lessons are not ever ending. After all us teachers have to go at break. Edited by Misseagle (11 Dec 2017 4.25pm)
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steph_eagle Thornton Heath 11 Dec 17 4.29pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If teachers are made aware of any issues, they're pretty good at using common sense. I've had kids they needed to go a lot, I had a note from the parents, no problem whatsoever. Funny thing was, the kid hated leaving the lesson. All about communication. Seems there is a big difference between your thinking and the OPs which is why I responded the way I did the first time. As you can see by the response to your post, I stand by my first comment.
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Stuk Top half 11 Dec 17 4.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Misseagle
Kids should go at break or cross their legs, lessons are not ever ending. After all us teachers have to go at break. Edited by Misseagle (11 Dec 2017 4.25pm) It's not like you'd ask the kids for permission to go, if you needed to. You'd say I've just got to get something/check something or speak to Mr or Miss x. At primary school you are hardly likely to miss out, on anything critical to your future life, in a few minutes. But then I advocate parents being able to take their kids on holiday during term, just to give you some perspective.
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YT Oxford 11 Dec 17 4.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
It's not like you'd ask the kids for permission to go, if you needed to. You'd say I've just got to get something/check something or speak to Mr or Miss x. At primary school you are hardly likely to miss out, on anything critical to your future life, in a few minutes. But then I advocate parents being able to take their kids on holiday during term, just to give you some perspective. From a different perspective - I don’t advocate term-time holidays, and at heart I’m a ‘disciplinarian’ - however, in this example I’m horrified that a ‘no toilet breaks’ rule is even contemplated. Sorry, but it sounds like something out of a darker age.
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Misseagle London 11 Dec 17 4.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
It's not like you'd ask the kids for permission to go, if you needed to. You'd say I've just got to get something/check something or speak to Mr or Miss x. At primary school you are hardly likely to miss out, on anything critical to your future life, in a few minutes. But then I advocate parents being able to take their kids on holiday during term, just to give you some perspective. I've gone during teaching time once in 2 years. Usually I hold it as there is no one to cover. The toilets are just outside my class, so the kids can go as soon as break arrives, if they don't take that chance because they are too busy playing, tough luck.
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Misseagle London 11 Dec 17 4.59pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
From a different perspective - I don’t advocate term-time holidays, and at heart I’m a ‘disciplinarian’ - however, in this example I’m horrified that a ‘no toilet breaks’ rule is even contemplated. Sorry, but it sounds like something out of a darker age. Why are you so horrified?
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YT Oxford 11 Dec 17 5.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Misseagle
Why are you so horrified? Well for starters it suggests to me that there’s absolutely no trust between teacher and pupil. My daughters often need the loo at short notice (for ‘ladies’ problems’ if you want me to spell it out by way of a euphemism!) and the thought that a teacher would deny them access to such a basic requirement is horrifying and slightly sickening.
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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 11 Dec 17 5.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
In my day, if one wanted to urinate you raised 1 finger, for a bowel movement one raised 2 fingers.
Not heard of that method before; I just hope you washed your hands thoroughly afterwards.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Dec 17 6.29pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
Well for starters it suggests to me that there’s absolutely no trust between teacher and pupil. My daughters often need the loo at short notice (for ‘ladies’ problems’ if you want me to spell it out by way of a euphemism!) and the thought that a teacher would deny them access to such a basic requirement is horrifying and slightly sickening. There's a distinction in the teachers mind between genuine need or a chance for tomfoolery. 99% of the time, kids want to mess about outside the classroom.
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Direwolf Lincoln 11 Dec 17 7.29pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There's a distinction in the teachers mind between genuine need or a chance for tomfoolery. 99% of the time, kids want to mess about outside the classroom. So how does the teacher distinguish between genuine need and tomfoolery? If you start with the mindset '99% of the time' are you ever going to believe anyone?
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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 11 Dec 17 9.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Misseagle
Ooh cruel. She asked 5 minutes after lunch. There is no excuse for that, 10 and 11 year old's should know to use the toilet at break and lunch. Maybe she has an issue with other children being in there, maybe she is being bullied and scared to go when certain other kids are around. Maybe she had lunch club and didn't have time. Maybe she was trying it on. Not always a straight forward answer
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