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Casual Orpington 16 Nov 17 6.54am | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
I was listening and then you said sell our best striker for £20 million and then I stopped even thinking about the rest. I was quite interested in looking at the suggestions, but stopped reading at Dwight Gayle.
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Painter Croydon 16 Nov 17 1.39pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Why not? 25 goals in 3500 minutes for Crystal Palace say he is. What more would it take for him to be one? Do you want him to grow wings and fly? Score a hat trick every match? Win his team the league?? Oh wait, he just did that for Newcastle last year, being the player with most goals and most assists Edited by mattteo (15 Nov 2017 12.01am) He only scored 15 goals in the Premier over 3 seasons, hardly a great record.
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mattteo 16 Nov 17 4.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
He only scored 15 goals in the Premier over 3 seasons, hardly a great record.
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lefty27 ipswich 16 Nov 17 4.20pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
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Casual Orpington 16 Nov 17 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Benteke is in the squad for one of the favourites for the World Cup, not even sure what national team Gayle would play for?
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mattteo 16 Nov 17 5.36pm | |
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Originally posted by lefty27
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mattteo 16 Nov 17 5.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Casual
Benteke is in the squad for one of the favourites for the World Cup, not even sure what national team Gayle would play for?
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Painter Croydon 16 Nov 17 7.39pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Gayle took 3 seasons to score his goals, he wasn't played as he didn't train well and had a attitude problem, was only played as last resort.
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Casual Orpington 16 Nov 17 7.53pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
KDB and Pogba were young and improved massively.
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mattteo 19 Nov 17 9.43am | |
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Just a reminder that Gayle has scored at Old Trafford and if the ref had allowed his correct goal the previous matchday he'd have had 2 by now and he's just started being played. Edited by mattteo (19 Nov 2017 9.43am)
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OldFella London 19 Nov 17 9.55pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
This post is in response to all the rumours linking us to 20+ million Khouma Babacar, Cenk Tosun, Slimani, Florin Andone or others.
Nils Petersen- probably the most underrated big center forward out there. If you want someone who can score big time and is a big man up front for moments when you dominate, he's your man. Never really appreciated in Freiburg. Olympic silver medalist in 2016 with Germany, after scoring 6 goals in the tournament. The Germans ask for really small fees compared to the players' value and compared to the English market. Petersen is better than any player who costs 5-8 times more and plays in the PL Dwight Gayle- really underrated in his time here. I've seen many opinions about him being a "great Championship player", but not "good enough for the PL". I find that impossible. Those who prove themselves very good in the Championship are also good strikers in the PL. From Rickie Lambert to Troy Deeney, from Charlie Austin to Jamie Vardy, from Callum Wilson to Ighalo, from Andre Gray to Abel Hernandez, they've all been decent if not actually good in the PL. Yes, there's the occasional Patrick Bamford, but he was very young and inexperienced and at his age was always a gamble. Gayle has been a steady goalscorer both in the PL and in the Championship for many years. IF you give him playing time, he'll do it, he'll repay you. Rafa Benitez has turned away from him, even though it was mainly Gayle who ensured their promotion from the Championship. He prefers Joselu and Mitrovic. Even though he has 9 matches and no goals this year, Dwight Gayle has actually scored last match against Bournemouth and it was wrongly disallowed for offside (you can check it out on many sites: [Link] ) Emenike- this one's a tricky one, as he doesn't seem to be scoring much. He has even retired from the Nigeria national after criticism of not having scored in 2 years. Well, the time may seem long, but he actually assisted 5 times in those last 1200 minutes for the national team (and they were tough games in the World Cup with Bosnia and Argentina where he assisted). I don't differentiate much between a goal and an assist and it just shows that he still contributed for the ultimate purpose: scoring. If a center forward doesn't score but provides an assist every other match is still a good thing. And up until then he had been a wonderful goalscorer too, with 8 goals in 13 matches for Nigeria and also at club level with Spartak Moscow and Fenerbahce, You could say he didn't cut it for West Ham, but he was just used in 16 matches, mostly coming on as a substitute for a few minutes (and he did score 2 goals).He's with Olympiakos, but they also invested in the young Serbian goalscorer Djurdjevic (who's not a confirmation yet), so they might let Emenike go for a low fee. He's 30 years old. Obafemi Martins- a little too old at 33, but he's one of my favourites. His goals per minutes played ration is surpassed only by a few players at medium-level football leagues in the last years. 40 goals and 20 assists in the MLS in 6200 minutes (beat that, Giovinco!) and 16 goals and 8 assists in China in 2500 minutes. Those of you who had been around back in the day, remember just how fast and awesome he was at 20 years old, playing for Internazionale Milano. He's undervalued in Shanghai Shenhua though and even though the Chinese pretty much ask for gazzillions when selling their star players, they want to give up on Martins because they have the 3 foreign player berths occupied by Carlos Tevez, Giovanni Moreno and Freddy Guarin.
Some other players, but not strikers, who would be good for improving the scoring and cheap (because there are also Zaha and Townsend who are really good and starters): Right footed wingers: Left footed wingers:
Edited by mattteo (14 Nov 2017 11.06pm) I stopped reading or taking you seriously when I read the highlighted bit.
Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it.. |
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mattteo 09 Dec 17 8.06pm | |
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Since our last discussion here, Benteke has made it 850 minutes with no goal or assist in the PL (10 matches in which he mostly played the full 90 mins, hardly taken out), neither did he manage to convert a penalty. Meanwhile, Gayle, the 20 million less striker, has done this against Manchester United: And this against Chelsea: And this (assist and goal today- right foot, left foot):
Not trying to offend anyone with this post, but clearly I know a thing or two about this game. If I had been manager and replaced Benteke with Gayle and 3 other strikers at the start of the season, the situation would not have been as bad as it is today. Maybe I could not have known for sure, but analyzing these players has made me give out correct prognosis in advance
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