I echo the same sentiments as most on here – thought he was terrible for Sunderland, was always being pulled up on MoTD for lack of effort in defending until Allardyce came in. For that reason I thought he was an awful signing but since we had Allardyce it gave me hope but now he’s gone, it seems PVA has gone back to his shocking self.

Bring in Schlupp at left back and have RLC replace him in midfield.

Never watched him for Sunderland besides his games against us, but he always played well in those games. For us Van aanholt hasn’t ever been as bad as he was yesterday but he was shocking.
I think someone hit the nail on the head- the manager go round is killing the cohesion of the team. Kelly and Pulis, pardew and cabaye, puncheon and pulis, FDB and riedewald, allardyce and Tomkins, PVA, benteke etc. The problem is that certain players are bought/perfect for certain systems and managers but don’t always adapt to change. Btw I know that some of those managers didn’t buy some of those players but they fit their respective systems well, or in riedewald’s case, would have.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (25 Oct 2017 9.40am)

When you’re knocked on your back and your life’s a flop...

The last time we were struggling at left back this badly we brought a kid in by the name of Nathaniel Clyne...remember him? Surely we have a kid in that position that we can give a run out to...as for Suoare he looked hopelessly out of sorts when he cam on (understandably)

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we need big Sam to get a new gig somewhere and buy him for 50m

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

I think that was one of the times before last.

The last time we were struggling at left back we put Kelly there and pardewed him until he didn't know what day of the week it was.

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To summarise...ever since I've been coming here:-

1. So-called 'quality' players join us, and end up being terrible.
2. So-called 'cr*p' players or 'cr*p' teams are somehow world-beaters when they play us.

I accept that there have been periods of exception to the above, but I maintain that these maxims generally have prevailed for the last 45 years!

Apologies for repeating something I've posted before. As a kid, I was watching yet another dire Palace display at Selhurst. A recent signing (I regret I can't remember who it was - possibly Iain Phillip or someone in that era?) got a right old slagging from a Palace fan in the Arthur Wait, along the lines of: "you're sh*t! How the f*ck did we sign you?!". To which a 'wag' behind me shouted: "Listen mate, if we had Pele down here, he would play like a c*nt!"

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)