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  Hrolf The Ganger  16 Oct 17 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Oh dear. That's all you have left in the face of reality, isn't it comrade.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 16 Oct 17 2.17pm |
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Isn't this virtually the same position as adopted by May in her Florence speech?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Oct 17 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No it's a bulls*** article from the express. Rather than diverting from the subject at hand, why not give us your own thoughts on tuition fees, council house building and lifting the pay cap for some public sector workers. OK. How much does the average student repay every month in fees? Do you actually know? Public sector workers have been capped because they received disproportionately high wage rises under the last stupid overspending Labour government. Is spending taxpayers money on building council houses so that we can house more immigrants a policy that makes sense to you?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
OK. How much does the average student repay every month in fees? Do you actually know? Public sector workers have been capped because they received disproportionately high wage rises under the last stupid overspending Labour government. Is spending taxpayers money on building council houses so that we can house more immigrants a policy that makes sense to you? Interest is added to student loans at 6%. It's all well and good saying they won't be paying till they earn ｣27k, they are still accruing interest. I ignored the facile unsubstantiated immigration stuff.
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| Helmet46 Croydon 16 Oct 17 3.29pm |
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I知 not brilliant at this stuff but I always thought the Blair Labour Govt introduced tuition fees and then replaced maintenance grants with the current student loan stuff? I also thought it was a Labour Govt that also tripled them from ｣1,000 to ｣3,000?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 16 Oct 17 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by Helmet46
I知 not brilliant at this stuff but I always thought the Blair Labour Govt introduced tuition fees and then replaced maintenance grants with the current student loan stuff? I also thought it was a Labour Govt that also tripled them from ｣1,000 to ｣3,000? Student loans came in early '90s by Major I think. Labour introduced tuition fees. Labour had a target of 50% into university. Tories increased the fees to be completely paid by students. This has got out of control. To think you're only going to pay interest it'll surely put those off going onto less academic courses, causing companies to recruit a level leavers and train them.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Oct 17 4.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Interest is added to student loans at 6%. It's all well and good saying they won't be paying till they earn ｣27k, they are still accruing interest. I ignored the facile unsubstantiated immigration stuff. I know you like to ignore the truth. So the repayments on all that money borrowed and the education gained is not too bad then.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Oct 17 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by Helmet46
I知 not brilliant at this stuff but I always thought the Blair Labour Govt introduced tuition fees and then replaced maintenance grants with the current student loan stuff? I also thought it was a Labour Govt that also tripled them from ｣1,000 to ｣3,000? Now you have ruined Nick's, 'It's all the Tories' fault drone.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I know you like to ignore the truth. So the repayments on all that money borrowed and the education gained is not too bad then. That was on a relatively low 14k loan. Kids are leaving uni with 50k + loans.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Oct 17 4.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I know you like to ignore the truth. So the repayments on all that money borrowed and the education gained is not too bad then. I don't think it matters how affordable the repayment scheme is, the fact we're taxing the 'best and the brightest' for pursuing a course of self improvement that fundamentally betters the nations interests is the real issue. But the real issue, is this. The people benefiting most, are paying the least - the companies etc that demand degree level education to get a foot through their doors. Effectively, people are paying 9k a year in order to pay for employment training, that these companies should be providing.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Oct 17 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I don't think it matters how affordable the repayment scheme is, the fact we're taxing the 'best and the brightest' for pursuing a course of self improvement that fundamentally betters the nations interests is the real issue. But the real issue, is this. The people benefiting most, are paying the least - the companies etc that demand degree level education to get a foot through their doors. Effectively, people are paying 9k a year in order to pay for employment training, that these companies should be providing. Is it really employment training? You have to get the degree or post-grad stuff just to get the interview but there is loads more to learn after that in most decent jobs. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Oct 2017 4.56pm)
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| elgrande bedford 16 Oct 17 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I don't think it matters how affordable the repayment scheme is, the fact we're taxing the 'best and the brightest' for pursuing a course of self improvement that fundamentally betters the nations interests is the real issue. But the real issue, is this. The people benefiting most, are paying the least - the companies etc that demand degree level education to get a foot through their doors. Effectively, people are paying 9k a year in order to pay for employment training, that these companies should be providing. The best and the brightest,really jamie.
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