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hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Oct 17 6.34pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What books that. How to live like a fifties gentleman? I completely agree that significant females are an influence. Funny how you diss the whole of the world's male population though by not stressing the importance of a significant male either. You male oppressor you. Edited by nickgusset (09 Oct 2017 6.18pm) 86% of lone parent families are headed by a female. Why do you think that is?
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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Oct 17 6.41pm | |
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If I were a toddler in the 80s I would've jumped at the chance to have been brought up Elton and David if the alternative was Fred and Rose West...or Richard and Judy.
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Pikester Worthing 09 Oct 17 6.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If I were a toddler in the 80s I would've jumped at the chance to have been brought up Elton and David if the alternative was Fred and Rose West...or Richard and Judy. Whereas JamieMartin would have jumped at the chance to have Fred West guide him through all those patio burying techniques. Originally posted by Vaibow
It's the natural order to have a mum and dad, but so many families are broken up, wether it be divorce, death, separation, one night stands - fact is, i thin what the op is probably hinting too, the process to adapt kids, he may be saying that these two fitted the bill more because they were gay and it looks good, filling quota's than them actually saying 'hang on, you don't seem capable and then feared to be homophobic' which could be the case - not saying it is, but there are a lot of people who want to appear 'progressive' and take the easy option. That's a very good point Vaibow. I sincerely hope this wasn't a case of a quota being met - but we know it does happen. When I applied for a job at HMRC I was told if I was disabled I'd be GUARANTEED an interview. Perhaps being LGBT moves you up the pecking order? I hope not.
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elgrande bedford 09 Oct 17 7.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Pikester
That's a very good point Vaibow. I sincerely hope this wasn't a case of a quota being met - but we know it does happen. When I applied for a job at HMRC I was told if I was disabled I'd be GUARANTEED an interview. Perhaps being LGBT moves you up the pecking order? I hope not. Positive discrimination..is still discrimination.
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 17 7.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's certainly true that bad parents are bad parents regardless.....but I don't think anyone here would recommend giving a child to alcoholics to adopt......Rich parents have had their children raised by nannies and if your buck has paid for quality the result is often good. Elton John and his partner no doubt do this themselves.....If I were a judge over this kind of thing. I would have a preference for male/female but the coupling would be less important than ensuring that a female presence was significant. But the point is a valid one that a genuine loving relationship with the child is the most important thing. This is always a percentage problem with any family....and significantly more so when adoption is a reality....Adopters need to be stable and committed people. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2017 6.23pm) On face value, if I were in charge of such things, I would not allow same sex adoptions. My logic would be that the child's welfare is far more important than the wishes of a would be adopting parent. I would be very surprised if there was not some psychological price to pay for having same sex parents, especially men. That said, the issue is whether the demand among different sex couples is sufficient to ensure that children are not spending years in care waiting to be adopted. In that case, there is an argument to allow same sex adoption.
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Mapletree Croydon 09 Oct 17 9.00pm | |
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What a huge amount of opinion without any evidence.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Oct 17 9.02pm | |
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All these arguements are somewhat pointless as adopted kids arent from any kind of ideal social environment or typical from perfect parents. Most kids in the care system would be better off with one decent parent irrespective of gender or sexual orientatiom
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Oct 17 9.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
What a huge amount of opinion without any evidence. None of them listen to the Archers I reckon.
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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 09 Oct 17 9.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Pikester
That's a very good point Vaibow. I sincerely hope this wasn't a case of a quota being met - but we know it does happen. When I applied for a job at HMRC I was told if I was disabled I'd be GUARANTEED an interview. Perhaps being LGBT moves you up the pecking order? I hope not. We've all seen/experienced positive discrimination wether they are old, young, diff skin colour or sexual preference - i can think of an example for each - not saying it's right, but it goes on. It's interesting that some posters feel there is a disadvantage being raised by two dads - there may well be, but it's the lesser of two evils in some instances, so to speak. I think the more people look into things, the more we label or demand 'social justice' the more divided we become.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 09 Oct 17 9.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Pikester
That's a very good point Vaibow. I sincerely hope this wasn't a case of a quota being met - but we know it does happen. When I applied for a job at HMRC I was told if I was disabled I'd be GUARANTEED an interview. Perhaps being LGBT moves you up the pecking order? I hope not. Tick the LBGT box and have an "Epiphany" 2 weeks into the role after probation. A bit of a Willo-ism, but straight from a FTSE100 CEO. More HR rubbish.
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Mapletree Croydon 09 Oct 17 10.16pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Positive discrimination..is still discrimination. And is, of course, illegal.
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Stirlingsays 09 Oct 17 10.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
And is, of course, illegal. What were all-women shortlists if not positive discrimination?
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